Another Arrogant Case of Christian Apologist Hypocrisy!

Take a look at this:

Hi, I’m Erik Manning.

If you’re like most of my readers, you’re a Christian who feels a conviction to share their faith. But, if you’re like me, you’ve found that our culture is growing increasingly skeptical towards the Gospel. According to many in society, Christianity is anti-science, intolerant, and based on fairy tales.

Not too long ago, I was sitting with a couple of co-worker friends, and the conversation switched to spiritual things. I started to share Jesus, and let’s say that things didn’t go well. They shot me to shreds.

One of my co-worker friends was an agnostic and thought that science disproved God. The other was a son of missionaries, but he lost his faith while he was in college and was now a Buddhist. Both raised objections that left me speechless at the time.

Rather than accepting defeat, this pushed me into looking for answers for why I believe what I believe. I was able to find a mentor who happened to be a philosophy professor and an expert on historical apologetics. He graciously put me on an intense self-study track and made himself available for guidance. I devoured literature, podcasts, lectures, and online classrooms produced by both Christians and skeptics.

As I did, my confidence grew tremendously. I’m no longer afraid of being asked hard questions. I realized that my faith wasn’t just experiential but also rooted in history, reason, and even science. This blog is a product of my past and ongoing studies in this area.

I aim to help doubters doubt their doubts and equip believers to be able to share their faith in a skeptical culture.

I tackle issues like the reliability of the gospels, the historicity of the resurrection of Jesus, the foundation for moral values, ethical objections raised against Scripture, and other common skeptical objections to belief in God or Christianity.

What a load of crap! Let’s break that down, shall we?

If you’re like most of my readers, you’re a Christian who feels a conviction to share their faith. But, if you’re like me, you’ve found that our culture is growing increasingly skeptical towards the Gospel. According to many in society, Christianity is anti-science, intolerant, and based on fairy tales.

It’s not just evolution that discredits Genesis!

One of my co-worker friends was an agnostic and thought that science disproved God. The other was a son of missionaries, but he lost his faith while he was in college and was now a Buddhist. Both raised objections that left me speechless at the time.

Maybe because their Spiritual Orientation was different from yours? Did either of them say you shouldn’t be Christian? If they did, that was wrong.

If your Spiritual Orientation is CHRISTIAN….

If Your Spiritual Orientation is HUMANIST…

If your Spiritual Orientation is BUDDHIST…

Rather than accepting defeat, this pushed me into looking for answers for why I believe what I believe. I was able to find a mentor who happened to be a philosophy professor and an expert on historical apologetics. He graciously put me on an intense self-study track and made himself available for guidance. I devoured literature, podcasts, lectures, and online classrooms produced by both Christians and skeptics.

No, it wasn’t about accepting defeat, you bigot! It was really about respecting them as fellow human beings with autonomy like your own. And based on what I know about apologists, your mentor was almost certainly a con artist and he trained you to be one too, not an honest seeker of truth.

As I did, my confidence grew tremendously. I’m no longer afraid of being asked hard questions. I realized that my faith wasn’t just experiential but also rooted in history, reason, and even science.

Anyone can say that about his faith, whether Christian or not. Apologetics is about assuming a set of dogmas must be true and constructing arguments to support that presumption, which should be seen by everyone as unethical. 

An example of that being done to defend the Baha’i Faith, which nearly all Christians would reject as a false cult:

Adib Taherzadeh, CON ARTIST

I aim to help doubters doubt their doubts and equip believers to be able to share their faith in a skeptical culture.

Doubt their doubts? What does that even mean? That’s just an absurd cliche.

I tackle issues like the reliability of the gospels, the historicity of the resurrection of Jesus, the foundation for moral values, ethical objections raised against Scripture, and other common skeptical objections to belief in God or Christianity.

Look I already know that the Gospels are NOT reliable: Teaching religion dishonestly

…that there is no independent historical evidence for the resurrection of Jesus. Appeals to the accounts given in the four Gospels are circular reasoning and therefore invalid as a matter of establishing truth….

…a true foundation for moral values is based on empathy for fellow humans, not mere obedience to religious leaders and their questionable dogmas.,,,,

…..and as for ethical objections raised against Scripture:   Biblical Genocide and Pedophilia

This is the YouTube channel for that apologist:

https://www.youtube.com/@TestifyApologetics

Looking at his videos, I see he is obsessed with bashing Islam and the Prophet Muhammad and also slams Joseph Smith and the Mormon cult he founded….while also attacking Muhammad. Of course, I have attacked Islam a few times too, but I also understand why someone would convert to Islam. This other guy is an Islamophobe and that is repulsive to me.

I don’t care what you believe, as long as it is a private matter. But when you start asserting your religion as absolute truth that all should accept and follow, I react badly to such attitudes.

Insane Murder of Innocent Germans!

Read this story:

https://apnews.com/article/germany-christmas-market-attack-magdeburg-32ec923f21cccb2a34e287da42ced921

Germans mourn the 5 killed and 200 injured in the apparent attack on a Christmas market

MAGDEBURG, Germany (AP) — Germans on Saturday mourned the victims of an apparent attack in which authorities say a doctor drove into a busy outdoor Christmas market, killing five people, injuring 200 others and shaking the public’s sense of security at what would otherwise be a time of joy.

The alleged attack Friday evening in Magdeburg, about 130 kilometers (80 miles) west of Berlin, killed a 9-year-old and four adults and injured 41 people badly enough that authorities warned the death toll could rise.

Magdeburg marked the tragedy Saturday with the tolling church bells at 7:04 p.m., the exact time of the attack in the city of roughly 240,000 people.

The driver, a 50-year-old doctor who immigrated from Saudi Arabia in 2006, surrendered to police at the scene. He’s being investigated for five counts of suspected murder and 205 counts of suspected attempted murder, prosecutor Horst Walter Nopens said at a news conference.

Among other things, investigators are looking into whether the attack could have been motivated by the suspect’s dissatisfaction with the way Germany treats Saudi refugees, Nopens said.

“There is no more peaceful and cheerful place than a Christmas market,” Chancellor Olaf Scholz said. “What a terrible act it is to injure and kill so many people there with such brutality.”

Although Nopens mentioned the treatment of Saudi immigrants angle, authorities said Saturday that they still didn’t know why the suspect drove his black BMW into the crowded market.

Police haven’t publicly named the suspect, but several German news outlets identified him as Taleb A., withholding his last name in line with privacy laws, and reported that he was a specialist in psychiatry and psychotherapy.

Describing himself as a former Muslim, the suspect appears to have been an active user of the social media platform X, sharing dozens of tweets and retweets daily focusing on anti-Islam themes, criticizing the religion and congratulating Muslims who had left the faith.

He also accused German authorities of failing to do enough to combat what he referred to as the “Islamification of Europe.”

Magdeburg is shaken

The violence shocked Germany and Magdeburg, which is the capital of the eastern state of Saxony-Anhalt, bringing its mayor to the verge of tears and marring the centuries-old German tradition of Christmas markets. It led several other communities to cancel their weekend Christmas markets as a precaution and out of solidarity with Magdeburg’s loss. Berlin kept its many markets open but increased its police presence at them.

Germany has suffered a string of extremist attacks in recent years, including a knife attack that killed three people and wounded eight at a festival in the western city of Solingen in August.

Friday’s attack came eight years after an Islamic extremist drove a truck into a crowded Christmas market in Berlin, killing 13 people and injuring many others. The attacker was killed days later in a shootout in Italy.

Chancellor Scholz and Interior Minister Nancy Faeser traveled to Magdeburg, where a memorial service took place Saturday. Faeser ordered flags lowered to half-staff at federal buildings across the country.

Although many people went to the site with candles to mourn the victims, several hundred far-right protesters gathered in a central square in Magdeburg with a banner that read “remigration,” German news agency dpa reported.

A witness recounts the horrifying attack

Verified bystander footage distributed by dpa showed the suspect’s arrest at a tram stop in the middle of the road. A nearby police officer pointing a handgun at the man shouted at him as he lay prone, his head arched up slightly. Other officers swarmed around the suspect and took him into custody.

Thi Linh Chi Nguyen, a 34-year-old manicurist from Vietnam whose salon is in a mall across from the Christmas market, was on the phone during a break when she heard loud bangs that she thought were fireworks. She then saw a car drive through the market at high speed. People screamed and a child was thrown into the air by the car.

Shaking as she described what she had witnessed, she recalled seeing the car bursting out of the market and turning right onto Ernst-Reuter-Allee street and then coming to a standstill at the tram stop where the suspect was arrested.

The number of injured people was overwhelming.

“My husband and I helped them for two hours. He ran back home and grabbed as many blankets as he could find because they didn’t have enough to cover the injured people. And it was so cold,” she said.

 

The market itself was still cordoned off Saturday with red and white tape and police vans, as armed officers guarded at every entrance. Some thermal security blankets still lay on the street.

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So let me get this straight…..this doctor, a domestic TERRORIST, killed and injured people because of his hatred for Islam?! REALLY???!!! HOW DOES HURTING INNOCENT BYSTANDERS DISCREDIT ISLAM?!

Maybe this guy should be DEPORTED back to Saudi Arabia and then the Saudis can punish him, since I know already the Germans won’t give him the death penalty if he is kept in Germany.

All this does is make Islam and Muslims look sympathetic, the exact opposite of what that idiot intended!

When “Feminists” Betray their Own Cause

This may be almost a decade ago, but it doesn’t matter. Betrayal is betrayal and this is a prime example.

On December 2, 2015, the Goldsmiths Feminist Society posted this nonsense on their official tumblr blog.

Someone responded to this by saying:

Way to go with inconsistency and hypocrisy, goldsmiths ‘feminists’

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Why would feminists side with Muslims against atheists? Let us look at passages from the Quran, the book that is the very foundation of Islam itself.

2:223

Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will, and send (good deeds) before you for your souls, and fear Allah, and know that ye will (one day) meet Him. Give glad tidings to believers, (O Muhammad).

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4:11

Allah chargeth you concerning (the provision for) your children: to the male the equivalent of the portion of two females, and if there be women more than two, then theirs is two-thirds of the inheritance, and if there be one (only) then the half. And to each of his parents a sixth of the inheritance, if he have a son; and if he have no son and his parents are his heirs, then to his mother appertaineth the third; and if he have brethren, then to his mother appertaineth the sixth, after any legacy he may have bequeathed, or debt (hath been paid). Your parents and your children: Ye know not which of them is nearer unto you in usefulness. It is an injunction from Allah. Lo! Allah is Knower, Wise.

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4:34

Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.

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24:31

And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands or fathers or husbands’ fathers, or their sons or their husbands’ sons, or their brothers or their brothers’ sons or sisters’ sons, or their women, or their slaves, or male attendants who lack vigour, or children who know naught of women’s nakedness. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And turn unto Allah together, O believers, in order that ye may succeed.

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Surely that is enough to show that Islam by its very nature is anti-feminist. So why did the Goldsmiths Feminist Society take the absurd position they did? Because in most western countries, including the United Kingdom and the United States, Muslims are a marginalized people. But while you may defend the rights and dignity of Muslims, defending Islam itself is unacceptable because it is indeed a HARMFUL religion to women! The simple fact that in most Muslim countries women are treated as second class citizens is proof of that. It is NOT Islamophobic to criticize Islam for that. It is opposing SEXISM, which feminists are expected to do.

Fortunately, it seems the  Goldsmiths Feminist Society collapsed soon after this disgrace. They have not posted anything on tumblr since 2016:

https://www.tumblr.com/goldfemsoc-blog

They also haven’t posted anything on Twitter since that year:

Likewise, they have posted nothing on their Facebook page since 2018.

https://www.facebook.com/goldfemsoc/

So good riddance!

Has Ayaan Hirsi Ali Lost her Mind?!

Read this:

https://unherd.com/2023/11/why-i-am-now-a-christian/

Why I am now a Christian

Atheism can’t equip us for civilisational war

In 2002, I discovered a 1927 lecture by Bertrand Russell entitled “Why I am Not a Christian”. It did not cross my mind, as I read it, that one day, nearly a century after he delivered it to the South London branch of the National Secular Society, I would be compelled to write an essay with precisely the opposite title.

For the record, here is Russell’s actual lecture:

https://users.drew.edu/~jlenz/whynot.html

Why I Am Not a Christian  (1927)

By Bertrand Russell

As your Chairman has told you, the subject about which I am going to speak to you tonight is ‘Why I am not a Christian’. Perhaps it would be as well, first of all, to try to make out what one means by the word ‘Christian’. It is used these days in a very loose sense by a great many people. Some people mean no more by it than a person who attempts to live a good life. In that sense I suppose there would be Christians in all sects and creeds; but I do not think that that is the proper sense of the word, if only because it would imply that all the people who are not Christians—all the Buddhists, Confucians, Mohammedans [sic] , and so on—are not trying to live a good life. I do not mean by a Christian any person who tries to live decently according to his lights. I think that you must have a certain amount of definite belief before you have a right to call yourself a Christian. The word does not have quite such a full-blooded meaning now as it had in the times of St Augustine and St Thomas Aquinas. In those days, if a man said that he was a Christian it was known what he meant. You accepted a whole collection of creeds which were set out with great precision, and every single syllable of those creeds you believed with the whole strength of your convictions.

So immediately Russell does what any person wanting to be fair and accurate would do: give a proper definition of being a Christian believer. He did this to debunk the all too common idea that Christianity = goodness. Christians themselves should appreciate that; I’m sure most of them would object to someone like Carl Sagan being called Christian (he was brought up Jewish, actually) just for being good.

From now on I will put Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s words in purple and Bertrand Russell’s words in red so you can compare them directly. And I will make responses to both as I go. Continuing…..

The year before, I had publicly condemned the terrorist attacks of the 19 men who had hijacked passenger jets and crashed them into the twin towers in New York. They had done it in the name of my religion, Islam. I was a Muslim then, although not a practising one. If I truly condemned their actions, then where did that leave me? The underlying principle that justified the attacks was religious, after all: the idea of Jihad or Holy War against the infidels. Was it possible for me, as for many members of the Muslim community, simply to distance myself from the action and its horrific results?

Of course it is possible! Does the Quran explicitly command the destruction of civilian targets like the World Trade Center? Indeed, why was that targeted at all? The targeting of the Pentagon that same day may have made sense from a military standpoint, but hitting a non-military building is never cool. Her faith in Islam need not have been shaken by such nonsense, really.

At the time, there were many eminent leaders in the West — politicians, scholars, journalists, and other experts — who insisted that the terrorists were motivated by reasons other than the ones they and their leader Osama Bin Laden had articulated so clearly. So Islam had an alibi.

This excuse-making was not only condescending towards Muslims. It also gave many Westerners a chance to retreat into denial. Blaming the errors of US foreign policy was easier than contemplating the possibility that we were confronted with a religious war. We have seen a similar tendency in the past five weeks, as millions of people sympathetic to the plight of Gazans seek to rationalise the October 7 terrorist attacks as a justified response to the policies of the Israeli government.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is actually starting to drop the ball here. I know enough about Islam to recognize that its concept of Jihad (holy war) is always meant to be defensive in nature, never offensive.

Surah 2: The Cow

190 Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.

191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

192 But if they desist, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

193 And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.

So the attack against the World Trade Center actually violated what the Quran taught.  In addition to the building complex being peaceful in nature, Muslims could have been working there that day and could have died there.

Plus both Israel and America have committed wrongful acts towards Arabs and Muslims on many occasions.

Israel is a nation of BIGOTRY!

Israel Commits Another War Crime

Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and the USA

The Absurdity of the Iraq War

The fact that not all Muslims are anti-American terrorists and that history is full of examples of Israeli and American acts of aggression justifies the even-handed approach of western journalists and scholars. We shouldn’t be like FOX News, after all.

When I read Russell’s lecture, I found my cognitive dissonance easing. It was a relief to adopt an attitude of scepticism towards religious doctrine, discard my faith in God and declare that no such entity existed. Best of all, I could reject the existence of hell and the danger of everlasting punishment.

Russell’s assertion that religion is based primarily on fear resonated with me. I had lived for too long in terror of all the gruesome punishments that awaited me. While I had abandoned all the rational reasons for believing in God, that irrational fear of hellfire still lingered. Russell’s conclusion thus came as something of a relief: “When I die, I shall rot.”

Let’s see what Russell actually said.

THE ARGUMENT FOR THE REMEDYING OF INJUSTICE

Then there is another very curious form of moral argument, which is this: they say that the existence of God is required in order to bring justice into the world. In the part of this universe that we know there is great injustice, and often the good suffer, and often the wicked prosper, and one hardly knows which of those is the more annoying; but if you are going to have justice in the universe as a whole you have to suppose a future life to redress the balance of life here on earth. So they say that there must be a God, and there must be heaven and hell in order that in the long run there may be justice. That is a very curious argument. If you looked at the matter from a scientific point of view, you would say: ‘After all, I know only this world. I do not know about the rest of the universe, but so far as one can argue at all on probabilities one would say that probably this world is a fair sample, and if there is injustice here the odds are that there is injustice elsewhere also.’ Supposing you got a crate of oranges that you opened, and you found all the top layer of oranges bad, you would not argue: ‘The underneath ones must be good, so as to redress the balance.’ You would say: ‘Probably the whole lot is a bad consignment’; and that is really what a scientific person would argue about the universe. He would say: ‘Here we find in this world a great deal of injustice and so far as that goes that is a reason for supposing that justice does not rule in the world; and therefore so far as it goes it affords a moral argument against deity and not in favour of one.’ Of course I know that the sort of intellectual arguments that I have been talking to you about are not what really moves people. What really moves people to believe in God is not any intellectual argument at all. Most people believe in God because they have been taught from early infancy to do it, and that is the main reason.

Then I think that the next most powerful reason is the wish for safety, a sort of feeling that there is a big brother who will look after you. That plays a very profound part in influencing people’s desire for a belief in God.

Continuing…..

To understand why I became an atheist 20 years ago, you first need to understand the kind of Muslim I had been. I was a teenager when the Muslim Brotherhood penetrated my community in Nairobi, Kenya, in 1985. I don’t think I had even understood religious practice before the coming of the Brotherhood. I had endured the rituals of ablutions, prayers and fasting as tedious and pointless.

The preachers of the Muslim Brotherhood changed this. They articulated a direction: the straight path. A purpose: to work towards admission into Allah’s paradise after death. A method: the Prophet’s instruction manual of do’s and don’ts — the halal and the haram. As a detailed supplement to the Qur’an, the hadeeth spelled out how to put into practice the difference between right and wrong, good and evil, God and the devil.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali then proceeds to detail some of the intolerance that was indoctrinated into her and other Muslims in Africa, including anti-Semitism.

But then we see a wrong turn:

So, what changed? Why do I call myself a Christian now?

Part of the answer is global. Western civilisation is under threat from three different but related forces: the resurgence of great-power authoritarianism and expansionism in the forms of the Chinese Communist Party and Vladimir Putin’s Russia; the rise of global Islamism, which threatens to mobilise a vast population against the West; and the viral spread of woke ideology, which is eating into the moral fibre of the next generation.

The first two are certainly valid concerns. But “woke ideology”? That’s the imaginary target of right-wing bigots, not a threat to people in general, Progressive, liberal, and leftist people do not speak of themselves as having “woke ideology”. That’s almost like calling a person of African descent a “nigger”. Seeing an actual person from Africa use such a bigoted slur is shocking.

But we can’t fight off these formidable forces unless we can answer the question: what is it that unites us? The response that “God is dead!” seems insufficient. So, too, does the attempt to find solace in “the rules-based liberal international order”. The only credible answer, I believe, lies in our desire to uphold the legacy of the Judeo-Christian tradition.

That legacy consists of an elaborate set of ideas and institutions designed to safeguard human life, freedom and dignity — from the nation state and the rule of law to the institutions of science, health and learning. As Tom Holland has shown in his marvellous book Dominion, all sorts of apparently secular freedoms — of the market, of conscience and of the press — find their roots in Christianity.

Is she seriously claiming that non-Christians cannot share in those secular concepts? Or that debunking Christianity automatically debunks those concepts too? That’s quite a stretch!

To me, this freedom of conscience and speech is perhaps the greatest benefit of Western civilisation. It does not come naturally to man. It is the product of centuries of debate within Jewish and Christian communities. It was these debates that advanced science and reason, diminished cruelty, suppressed superstitions, and built institutions to order and protect life, while guaranteeing freedom to as many people as possible. Unlike Islam, Christianity outgrew its dogmatic stage. It became increasingly clear that Christ’s teaching implied not only a circumscribed role for religion as something separate from politics. It also implied compassion for the sinner and humility for the believer.

History has shown that Christians in Europe spent over 1000 years ignoring or rejecting concepts of personal freedom, with kings and emperors ruling over the people and that only the constant threat of violence resulting from the Protestant Reformation and the reactions of the Roman Catholic Church to that finally made European leaders realize that the absolute power of religion needed to be restrained, if not broken completely. Also, her claim that “Christianity outgrew its dogmatic stage” is laughably FALSE! There are plenty of authoritarian cults within Christianity and its many subdivisions. I grew up in one of them. And the aforementioned Catholic Church is highly dogmatic too. 

Yet I would not be truthful if I attributed my embrace of Christianity solely to the realisation that atheism is too weak and divisive a doctrine to fortify us against our menacing foes. I have also turned to Christianity because I ultimately found life without any spiritual solace unendurable — indeed very nearly self-destructive. Atheism failed to answer a simple question: what is the meaning and purpose of life?

If she turned to Christianity because it fit her Spiritual Orientation, so be it. But that doesn’t give her the right to talk down to those that are still atheist and have a different orientation. 

Russell and other activist atheists believed that with the rejection of God we would enter an age of reason and intelligent humanism. But the “God hole” — the void left by the retreat of the church — has merely been filled by a jumble of irrational quasi-religious dogma. The result is a world where modern cults prey on the dislocated masses, offering them spurious reasons for being and action — mostly by engaging in virtue-signalling theatre on behalf of a victimised minority or our supposedly doomed planet. The line often attributed to G.K. Chesterton has turned into a prophecy: “When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”

This simply makes no sense to me at all. After I stopped believing in God, I did not accept things like astrology or homeopathy. I insisted on evidence before accepting anything as true. Ironically, it was when I stopped demanding clear evidence for something and allowed myself to be manipulated emotionally that I converted to the Baha’i Faith, which I would eventually leave. Because of that experience, I think I know what really happened to Ayaan Hirsi Ali. That essay she wrote is a product of her being brainwashed.

We can’t withstand China, Russia and Iran if we can’t explain to our populations why it matters that we do. 

Respect for our common humanity is not enough? It is for me!

We can’t fight woke ideology if we can’t defend the civilisation that it is determined to destroy.

That is (to me, at least) insane. Progressive ideologies seek to improve civilization, not destroy anything. She is afraid of something that is actually harmless.

The lesson I learned from my years with the Muslim Brotherhood was the power of a unifying story, embedded in the foundational texts of Islam, to attract, engage and mobilise the Muslim masses. Unless we offer something as meaningful, I fear the erosion of our civilisation will continue. And fortunately, there is no need to look for some new-age concoction of medication and mindfulness. Christianity has it all.

Actually, that is a delusion, just as bad as that of Muslim bigots. There is no evidence that Christianity is true and indeed Ayaan Hirsi Ali hasn’t provided any. And that’s what should matter, not your misplaced feelings.

So I dismiss her claims for the rubbish it looks like to me.

More Gaslighting from Wahid Azal and his Sidekick, Stephen Beyer

After I posted my last blog entry, I got this comment on it.

Another unfair suspension from reddit!

stephan paul beyer says:
 
 
I addressed this nonsense directly
 
Look, Stephen…..you and Wahid are the ones who live constantly in your delusional fantasy world (and I’m not just referring to your being Bayanis or others being Baha’is; I don’t care that much about PRIVATE religious beliefs as long as you LEAVE OTHERS THE HELL ALONE). Wahid was expelled from r/exbahai after he exposed himself (no pun intended) as far more of a liability than an asset to the exBaha’i cause. Credibility is everything to me and it is obvious to me that Wahid constantly makes up tons of totally baseless SHIT to get attention to himself, regardless of the damage he does to others or even himself! We simply can’t have people like him who constantly engage in slander, libel, defamation and misrepresentation of me, the other mods of r/exbahai, or others. Because if we tolerate that……then we only give support to Baha’is who claim we of r/exbahai spread “misinformation” about their Faith…..because that’s exactly what Wahid does for real! Since you keep supporting him, you are no better than him and you deserve the same fate as him. Goodbye and good riddance!
 
Making cheap shots at my creations is no way to have a discussion about them, asshole! You don’t even bother linking to the specific videos you refer to, so FUK OFF!
 
And then I banned him.
 
Shortly after that, he and Wahid teamed up to defame me again. And in doing so, Wahid exposed his own ignorance about my past dealings with assholes like him on the internet.
 
 

by 

does anyone want to tell him?

Seeker_Alpha1701 via r/exbahai sent 2 months ago

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this is like claiming Muhammad claimed to be Gabriel or Allah because The Prophet quotes what they say.

You’ve never read the Quran, have you? Can you show us where Muhammad said, “I am Allah” ?

No, you can’t because the very idea of anyone, even a Messenger of God, claiming to be one with God himself is completely against Islam. That’s an idea that came from (the Trinitarian version of) Christianity. No wonder u/investigator919 thought you were arguing in bad faith (pun intended) and banned you!

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i mean i cant read arabic. i can only read translations. so he is correct that i have never read the quran. but its pretty clear he did not comprehend whatever he thought he read. and perhaps only read commentary dismissing islam as a fundamentalist religion. he is so clueless that it hurts to even try to understand his viewpoint to refute it.

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The Qurʾān generally styles itself as divine speech by employing the first person singular or plural (“I” or “we”) in statements that clearly refer to the Deity. However, this divine voice alternates with third-person statements about God. Utterances by Muhammad are normally introduced by the command “Say:…,” thus emphasizing that the Prophet is speaking on divine injunction only. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Quran
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Gomer’s IR handlers have convinced him that theopathic claims are somehow unique to Babism and bahaism when it is actually at the core foundation of Islam itself, arguably expressly articulated within the Quran, and specifically and especially in Shiism, not to mention Sufism. These handlers are already bad faith actors misleading everyone as to their true agenda, but with Gomer they have so led him down the garden path in unbelievable ways that every time he puts finger to keyboard he reveals a little more of his ignorance. The fact that he comes from a Southern Baptist Protestant background doesn’t help matters either.

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https://dalehusband.com/enemies-of-truth-and-justice/ how do i get on this list? i want to be an enemy of what he considers to be truth and what he considers justice. . .

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We’ve already made it on his list. Look at the bottom. The guy is so obsessed and unhinged he is doing us the service with his published rants. I’ve actually had people come to me after encountering his blog and tell me Dale is our best promoter yet, since there is no publicity like bad publicity, and once people carefully look at his rants and conniptions it just proves the opposite of what he says and gives us the credibility instead. So as the great Persian saying has it, “the enemy shall be the cause of good,”

عدو سبب خير شود

Furthermore, since Gomer is a terrible student of history, if he had only bothered to research a little bit about other individuals who have entangled with me on the same level as he has – like Paul Andrew Hammond once did – he would quickly discover that it never ends well for them. But he can’t believe that and has never encountered something like me before, so his obsessive-compulsion born from utter frustration just augments and accentuates from one day to the next and thereby plays into my hands until one fine day – just like Hammond before him – his balloon of hot air pops with a bang and permanently puts him in his place! I suspect this may have already happened to DBO on some level as well since he is hardly here anymore.

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Wow! Where do I start?

First, I have seen enough episodes of the YouTube channel Apple Texts and other such related channels over the past year to know that such blatant lies those two are telling about me, my blog and Islam must be rejected for the gaslighting they are. There is NO case in Islam of any genuine Prophet of God identifying himself as being the same as Allah’s essence. That is the very definition of blasphemy. Just because the early Christians came up with the Trinity to depict Jesus as being the same as “God the Son” doesn’t make it acceptable in any other religion. Islam explicitly rejects the Trinity and the Deity of Jesus or any other Messenger of God, full stop! Even the term “Manifestation of God” used by Baha’is to refer to Baha’u’llah, Jesus, Muhammad and other Messengers of God is foreign to Islam. Even as an atheist, I have enough respect for Islam not to misrepresent the religion and its teachings about Allah and His Messengers. Note that Wahid never showed a direct quote from the Quran to support his lies. 

Second, I have indeed dealt with narcissists, abusers and pathological liars like Wahid Azal before. I have seen the incredible amount of damage they can do if left unchecked, so maybe that explains my “obsession” with Wahid Azal now. 

Many years ago, I was a member of a web community called Care2, which was made to provide a place for liberals, progressives, and environmentalists to gather together and coordinate their efforts for their chosen causes. Sadly, many right-wingers, conservatives, and others opposed to liberals invaded that community and disrupted it over the years, claiming they were promoters of “free speech”. And the ringleader of those attackers was Jeffery Williams, who was almost exactly like Donald Trump in that he was narcissistic, arrogant and totally dishonest and treacherous. And he was also an ATHEIST. Williams finally was banned from Care2 and is now in prison for abusing homeless men for perverted entertainment purposes, but the damage to Care2 as a social site was already done.
 
Which eventually led to this:

And what happened to Jeffery Williams eventually?

https://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/two-to-be-sentenced-in-shefightsnet-fetish-beating-videos/2176069/

A judge gave prison sentences on Monday to two people behind an internet fetish video that showed a mentally disabled man being kicked and beaten.

Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Judge Keith Meyer sentenced Shefights.net producer and entrepreneur Jeffery Williams, 61, to seven years in prison. He gave performer Zuzu Vargo, 27, roughly three years in prison, plus three years’ probation.

Both defendants apologized in court. Vargo, in tears, said she did not know the man she was punching and kicking in the video was mentally impaired. She said others checked the men out before making the videos.

But, she said, “I shouldn’t have trusted the judgment of someone else. … I’m so sorry for all the trauma and distress.”

Williams also professed ignorance to the victim’s mental condition and said it was a key principle within the bondage-sadomasochism community that nobody inflicts more pain than a person wants to receive.

“We’re not in the business of hurting people … we’re in the business of a fantasy enactment for a certain subset of the population.” Williams added that, “I deeply regret the pain and the anguish that we caused.”

But Assistant State Attorney Susan St. John said the victim’s mental condition would have been obvious to Williams and Vargo. As an example of his functioning, she quoted the man’s explanation for why he’s scared of police: “Because they have guns and hats.”

Judge Meyer also said it was clear the man had a disability. According to evidence presented in court, the man was schizophrenic and off his medicine. He had left his group home, gotten lost for a month, stayed around Williams Park in St. Petersburg and eventually got recruited to appear in the Shefights video for about $50.

“I find it completely incredible that you would not have picked up within the first few seconds … how substantially he was impaired,” Meyer said.

And that, he said, made it a crime. He said if the victim had been a consenting adult, “we wouldn’t even be here today. Because people get to do what they want in this country.”

“I’m not passing judgment on your lifestyle one bit,” he added.

Vargo’s attorney Daniel Hernandez asked for a sentence below state guidelines, saying she had a dual diagnosis of substance abuse problems and mental health issues such as post-traumatic stress disorder and depression.

Meyer would not go below the guidelines but gave her less time than Williams: slightly more than three years in prison, plus three years of probation. During her probation, she must get mental health treatment.

The victim was not in court.

Prosecutors on Monday showed the video, although the judge already had seen it. The victim groaned and grunted as Vargo punched him in the ribs and face. He fell to the ground and she punched him more. She kicked him as well.

The sentencing on Monday follows a trial in December in which Williams and Vargo were convicted of aggravated abuse of a disabled adult, a first-degree felony with a maximum sentence of 30 years in prison. The sentencing completes that case, but it’s not the end for the two. They both face similar charges in a separate, pending case with a different victim.

And of course, there is the case of Donald Trump, who, along with many others, have finally been indicted for their crimes against America. His Presidency did a lot of damage to this country and its people, because of his own bigotries and of those who supported him. And he belongs in prison and certainly not in the White House ever again!

And what about yet another narcissist who has done incredible amounts of damage to others, iilluminaughtii? Like Azal, she constantly represents herself as an activist against corruption and for justice. But she is corrupt herself. Like Azal, she is a planet-sized hypocrite. I am not afraid of Trump, Jeffery Williams, iilluminaughtii, or Wahid Azal. They ALL should be stubbornly opposed by people who know what they have done and can do.

Finally, I googled the name “Paul Andrew Hammond” and found listings that say he died in December 2022. He was also listed as a police detective in San Antonio, Texas. Wahid Azal claimed he was a child pornographer about 14 years ago. How convenient for Azal that he can gloat over defeating this man now that he is dead, eh?  #coward

But I’m still alive and as long as I live, I will hold that monster and his idiot followers accountable for their bullshit. That’s what an ethical person does, period.

What Actually Motivated the Bab and Baha’u’llah?

Christianity is well known for its emphasis on the expectation of the Return of Christ to set up the Kingdom of God on Earth. What’s not so well known is that Shia, a branch of Islam, has similar expectations regarding the Imam Mahdi, also known as the 12th Imam or the Hidden Imam. In reddit, a Muslim said the following:

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I’ll just say one thing: When Imam Mahdi comes he will establish peace and justice once and for all. He will not change Islam and he will not bring a new religion.

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But that very assumption means that it is possible that as thousands of years continue to come and go, the Muslim population may gradually come to the conclusion that the expectation of Imam Mahdi to come is unrealistic and that Islam is not a true religion after all.

That seems to be an issue Baha’u’llah, the founder of the Baha’i Faith, was aware of.

https://bahai-library.com/writings/bahaullah/gwb/099.html

The vitality of men’s belief in God is dying out in every land; nothing short of His wholesome medicine can ever restore it. The corrosion of ungodliness is eating into the vitals of human society; what else but the Elixir of His potent Revelation can cleanse and revive it?

Could this loss of belief in God be a direct result of the prophecies of the return of Christ or of Imam Mahdi never coming to pass?

Why the Rapture is a bogus concept

A Critical Analysis of the Epistle of 2 Peter

We can understand that there was an actual time limit for the return of Jesus:

Matthew 16:28 King James Version (KJV)

Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

So Jesus should have returned by about 100 AD or so. Maybe AD 150 at the very latest. He didn’t, so:

Deuteronomy 18:22 King James Version (KJV)

 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

But the Quran clearly defines Jesus as a prophet of God. If Jesus failed to return in the time limit he himself gave, then according to Moses, he did not speak for God. If Jesus was false, so was Muhammad. If Muhammad was false, so were the Imams of Shia. So we shouldn’t expect the Imam Mahdi to ever return either. And since Baha’u’llah affirmed both Jesus and Muhammad as Prophets of God, he too is not one himself.

So where does that leave the Bab and Baha’u’llah? Well, the Bab claimed to be the Imam Mahdi, yet he was killed by a firing squad on July 9, 1850, thus failing to fulfil the promises of the Shias. And Baha’u’llah was said to be the return of Christ, but that seems illogical given the time limit Jesus gave. The Muslims, the Babis, and the Baha’is only seem to have credible faiths when you fail to remember that time limit for the return of Christ.

If you are ignorant of what Jesus REALLY taught (and failed to fulfil), you can be a sucker for anything. So to sum up:

  1. Jesus will never return.
  2. The Imam Mahdi will never return
  3. There is no religion after Judaism that is true.
  4. The desperate attempt by Baha’u’llah to stop the spread of atheism was pointless. Atheism is not a bad thing.

And those are my conclusions.

A critical analysis of a Muslim to Baha’i testimony

Today, I can celebrate, as Joe Biden finally takes his rightful place as the new President of the United States. I really hope Donald Trump fades away into the void like the degenerate scumbag he always was.

Meanwhile, I am still dealing with religious issues in reddit. Take a look at this:

https://www.removeddit.com/r/bahai/comments/l189z7/from_shia_exmuslim_to_bahai/

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I grew up in a strict Iraqi Shia family. I always had a place for God in my heart but I could never reconcile with the teachings of the Quran and the effects Islam had on the Muslim communities around me, shia, sunni, moderate and others. I saw sexism, homophobia, gossip, emotional isolation and of course violent enforcement of religious teachings. When I was finally old enough to legally leave my family home I did. I left religion, my hijab and the community behind. I needed to finally breathe.

10 years passed and I noticed that God’s place in my heart was getting smaller and smaller. There was even a point where I doubted my belief. Why was there so much hatred in his communities? Why was so much pain caused by his believers? Their worship and and words were so different that they might as well be descended from different Gods. I resented that I was told to believe in a God that promised nothing but horror, torture and hell fire. There was no compassion for Gods creatures, no pleasure in bowing down for him, no inspiration in their teachings and no guidance for my modern life. Deep down I knew of God and his true nature. His compassion, his beauty, his love for us. I couldn’t follow any religion or book that besmirched his name like that.

I wasn’t approached by any Bahai. I never saw any of their online work. I just searched for an answer. I refused to believe that God would let us rot in this horribly defect world we created. I believed that he must have thought of us and sent us guidance. I just needed to find it. It didn’t take long. When I learned about the Bab and his story it all clicked into place. The Shia teachings that I learned about in madrassa allowed me to recognize the Bab’s truth.

I’m only in the learning stages and I have no Bahai communities near me. But I call myself a Bahai because now I know that the God I have in my heart has never abandoned us.

Let’s do an examination of this testimony.

I always had a place for God in my heart but I could never reconcile with the teachings of the Quran and the effects Islam had on the Muslim communities around me, shia, sunni, moderate and others.

Millions of moderate and progressive Muslims can do just that. Indeed, there are subreddits of such Muslims, like this one:

https://www.reddit.com/r/progressive_islam/

I saw sexism, homophobia, gossip, emotional isolation and of course violent enforcement of religious teachings.

There is sexism and homophobia in the Baha’i Faith, even while the Faith’s leaders lie about believing in equality of men and women and claim they reject prejudice against gays

Why was there so much hatred in his communities? Why was so much pain caused by his believers? Their worship and and words were so different that they might as well be descended from different Gods. I resented that I was told to believe in a God that promised nothing but horror, torture and hell fire. There was no compassion for Gods creatures, no pleasure in bowing down for him, no inspiration in their teachings and no guidance for my modern life.

Those are exactly the sort of issues that lead many people to become atheists. And yet…..

Deep down I knew of God and his true nature. His compassion, his beauty, his love for us. I couldn’t follow any religion or book that besmirched his name like that.

Then why not embrace a form of Universalism?

I wasn’t approached by any Bahai. I never saw any of their online work. I just searched for an answer.

If you haven’t dealt directly with Baha’is, then you know nothing about how their religion works in terms of community. You just saw an abstraction. Religion is only useful in terms of its people.

I refused to believe that God would let us rot in this horribly defect world we created.

Ironically, atheism, so reviled by followers of Abrahamic religions, actually lets God off the hook; you can’t blame God for anything if he doesn’t exist.

I believed that he must have thought of us and sent us guidance. I just needed to find it.

I had the same assumptions in the mid 1990s, so I too became a Baha’i.

When I learned about the Bab and his story it all clicked into place. The Shia teachings that I learned about in madrassa allowed me to recognize the Bab’s truth.

Bullshit! The Bab claimed to be the Mahdi, a Messianic figure in Shiite Islam much like Jesus was supposed to be in Christianity. The Bab was expected to overthrow the evil rulers of the world and bring about a new age, but his being killed in 1850 by a firing squad should have discredited him and his movement forever. That didn’t happen because only a few years later, Baha’u’llah revived the Babi community and then claimed that he was “He Who God Will Make Manifest” that the Bab foretold. Most of the Babis, desperate to retain their faith, accepted Baha’u’llah and became Baha’is. To me, this would be an example of the sunk cost fallacy; the Babis and later Baha’is had suffered so much for their beliefs that they couldn’t bring themselves to admit they had been duped and their leadership had failed. This irrational view has kept the Baha’i Faith going to this day!

It is interesting that she is more interested in the Bab than Baha’u’llah. Could she become a Bayani/Azali if she discovers propaganda discrediting Baha’u’llah? But that movement is even less successful than the Baha’i one!

It is possible that the real reason she rejected Islam is that it does not fit her Spiritual Orientation. Could the Baha’i Faith be better for her? Then she should read this:

https://dalehusband.com/2018/05/04/if-your-spiritual-orientation-is-bahai/

And for clarity, she should also see this:

https://dalehusband.com/2018/04/24/if-your-spiritual-orientation-is-muslim/

She should also see THIS about a girl raised Muslim:

https://dalehusband.com/2019/06/16/a-conversion-to-unitarian-universalism/

There are SO MANY options they_marked_me can look up and consider before she goes off the deep end and wastes her time and life serving the cult of the So-Called Baha’i Faith (SCBF)!

 

 

What is a “true” religion?

It is no secret that as a non-theist I personally reject ALL God centered religions. That stems from my desire to avoid all double standards in my life; if I can no longer accept Baha’u’llah as a Messenger of God because his writings and character were flawed, by what standard can I accept any previous Messenger, such as Moses, Jesus, or Muhammad? Didn’t they ALL have failings and flaws from present day and secular standards? My desire for perfection in religion made me reject all of them…….but I must also recognize that my own religion, Unitarian Universalism, is also less than perfect. The reason is simple: ALL religions are run by humans, and humans are not perfect.

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False Prophets

Take a look at this web page:

http://www.bahaiawareness.com/false_prophets.html

The Holy Prophet of Islam (pbuh) prophesised that “there will arise 30 imposters in my nation and each one of them will pronounce that he is a prophet, but I am the last in the line of the Prophets and no Messenger will follow me.”

(There follows a list of these “false prophets” including….)

  • Bab: Another false claimant to prophethood, and the predecessor of Bahaullah, was Mizra Ali Muhammad, who initially declared himself the “Bab” (Gate) to the Mahdi, and eventually progressed into other claims. He was embraced by the Shaykhis sect of Shi’a , who were then renamed “Babis”. Subsequently, he declared himself to be the Shi’ite’s hidden Mahdi. After declaring himself the Mahdi, he moved on to call himself Nuqtiyiula and declared that the Quran and Muslim Shari’a were now abrogated. Shi’a and Sunni scholars condemned him and Bab faced a series of imprisonment, trials, and indignities before being shot dead by a firing squad in 1850.

  • Bahaullah: The self-proclaimed successor to the Bab, and another liar/false claimant to prophecy was Mizra Hussein Ali Nuri. In 1863 Hussein Ali, a prominent member of the Babi group, declared himself to be the person whom God will make manifest, whom the Bab had foretold. He also took the name Bahaullah (Glory of God) and formed a new religion, the Bahai faith. Bahaullah was banished from Persia and was eventually imprisoned in Akka-Palestine. There he wrote his main work, his Kitab-ul-Aqdas (Most Holy Book), and developed the doctrine of the Bahai faith into a comprehensive teaching.

So as you can see, the situation is clear. There were many false prophets who came after Mohammed(pbuh). There is nothing to show that the Bahai Faith stands out from any other false religion.  

In my Critical Analysis of the Kitab-i-Aqdas, I discredited Baha’u’llah. I did not do so because of my belief in Muhammad.

Question: How can we know that Muhammad himself was not a false prophet too? If your only reason for rejecting a claimant to prophethood is that he came after Muhammad, then why can’t Christians reject Muhammad because he came after Jesus? According to Christian teachings, NO ONE can ever replace Jesus, not even Muhammad! Jesus was the Son of God!

I have long believed that Muhammad was a liar and insulter of Allah precisely because he claimed to be the last Prophet or Messenger, because such a claim means that Allah is silenced forever, thus denying Allah’s sovereignty. And if you deny that, how can you be a credible servant of Allah?

Fifthly, the teachings and revelations cannot have contradictions. For example, saying that God is Truthful and Keeper of promises, but then say that God broke his promise to Noah about the hour of the flood (Kitab-i-Eqan). Isn’t it contradictory? or that Men and Women are equal but yet women cannot serve on the highest council in the Bahai Faith called the Universal House of Justice?

Well, here in this blog entry I have shown a contradiction of Islam. Muhammad was a fraud and Muslims might as well all be atheists.

THERE IS NO GOD AND MUHAMMAD WAS NOT HIS PROPHET!!!!

Sinéad O’Connor goes off the deep end

I’ve written about Sinéad O’Connor before:
https://dalehusband.com/2010/03/27/sinead-oconnor-was-both-wrong-and-right/

And I’ve also written about the Irish and the abuse they have suffered from the Catholic Church:

https://dalehusband.com/2011/01/20/the-irish-people-must-abandon-catholicism/

So it does not surprise me that she would finally reject any allegiance to Catholicism, just I would have urged her to do. But I never expected this:

Sinéad O’Connor Says She Never Wants to ‘Spend Time with White People Again’

Sinéad O’Connor is taking her commitment to her new religion one step further.

The 51-year-old “Nothing Compares 2 U” singer, who now goes by the name Shuhada Davitt, shared in a series of tweets early Tuesday that, a few weeks after officially converting to Islam, she wants to avoid everyone who does not share her spiritual beliefs.

In the first message, she wrote, “I’m terribly sorry. What I’m about to say is something so racist I never thought my soul could ever feel it. But truly I never wanna spend time with white people again (if that’s what non-muslims are called). Not for one moment, for any reason. They are disgusting.”

If her spiritual orientation is indeed Islamic, by all means she should embrace it. But this sounds like bigotry against non-Muslims. How can you promote the virtues of Islam except by interacting with non-Muslims to show them how good the religion is for you?

Then, O’Connor called into question the social platform’s policy about blocking hateful content. “Interesting to see if Twitter bans this when it allows people like Trump and Milbank spew the satanic filth upon even my country,” she said.

The musician also addressed the role of violence in Islam, Judaism and Christianity. O’Connor is a known critic of the Catholic church.

“BTW if one IS an intelligent theologian and has taken the journey, one would know there is no more talk of ancient violence in the Q’ran as the Tanukh, the Bible or The sodding Mahabarata. And its ALL EQUALLY [IRRELEVANT] TO OUR TIMES,” she mused, adding in a follow-up tweet, “Everyone says the Poor Americans are the victim of Trump. But you hired him. So fire him. Otherwise you’re complicit. It is the same with all so called Islamic Terrorism. Which is exactly what the devil wants and loves.”

If the violent stories in the Quran are indeed irrelevant to our times, why would anyone assume that the dogmas and rituals associated with Islam are relevant to this present day? Does simple logic not occur to her?

Tying in her own Irish culture, the singer continued, “No Irish person on earth would disagree. We didn’t fire the church. We let them please themselves in our children right under our noses and there is no recompense. No balm in gilliad for Irish human beings under ‘[civilization].’ “

To conclude, O’Connor acknowledged the bizarreness of the rant: “Final word. If its ‘Crazy’ to care. Then by all means, spank my ass and call me Fruity loops : )”

It is never crazy to care, but remember when you tore up that photo of the Pope on Saturday Night Live and the fallout resulting from that? That was a crazy stunt. And it seems you learned nothing from that failure.

Last month, she confirmed on Twitter her conversion to Islam, explaining that her new faith “is the natural conclusion of any intelligent theologian’s journey.”

“All scripture leads to Islam. Which makes all other scriptures redundant,” the Grammy winner added, before revealing she would henceforth be known by a new name. “I will be given (another) new name. It will be Shuhada.’”

In addition to changing her name on her Twitter page, she also replaced her profile picture with a photo that reads “Wear a hijab just do it” alongside the Nike swoosh logo. Additionally, her Twitter bio now reads, “PLEASE BE AWARE THAT IF YOU POST RACIST OR ANTI MUSLIM RHETORIC ON THIS PAGE YOU WILL BE BLOCKED.”

Demanding tolerance for your beliefs while being intolerant towards those who disagree? We have a word for that.

I wonder if she ever considered the Baha’i Faith. A Baha’i could just as easily proclaim that “all scripture leads to the Baha’i Faith. Which makes all other scriptures redundant.” As a Christian, I was taught that most of the “Old Testament” pointed to Jesus as the fulfillment of the Jewish covenant, which would have been an offensive thing to claim to any Jews that heard it. Well, as a non-theist, I think they are ALL wrong. There is no final religion, no perfect religion and no “true” religion. And no one can prove otherwise. That’s why we have so many religions and the many, many, MANY divisions within all of them.

The day after revealing her big news, O’Connor shared that she had been given her first hijab, writing that she wouldn’t be posting a photo because it’s “intensely personal,” before humorously adding that there was a second reason for her decision.

“I’m an ugly old hag,” she wrote. “But I’m a very, very, very happy old hag.”

Over the next couple of days, the Irish singer went on to share a number of photos of herself wearing a head covering, simply writing that she was “happy.”

O’Connor was ordained as a priest in 1999 in a dissident Roman Catholic group.

She has previously spoken out against the abuses of the Catholic Church, even ripping up a photo of Pope John Paul II during a Saturday Night Live appearance in 1992.

The singer has struggled with her mental health in recent years, including suicidal ideation, yet said she was open about her issues in the hopes that it would inspire others suffering to seek help.

Could her conversion to Islam also be a sign of mental illness? I’m not saying that all Muslims are mentally ill, of course. But her stated contempt for white people, while herself still being white, reminds me of THIS lunatic, Rachel Dolezal:

https://dalehusband.com/2015/06/14/lying-to-fight-racism/

And both should be ignored.

If your Spiritual Orientation is MUSLIM…

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I actually did a blog entry long ago that addressed perfectly my problems with people who feel more drawn to Islam than any other religion so I am content to refer my Muslim readers to that:

Muslims, get a life!

Do you REALLY believe in Allah, who is described throughout the Quran as “the Merciful” as well as “Forgiving”? It seems that many of your comrades in faith do not and merely use His name to destroy people’s lives and freedom!

I have not forgotten how some of you threatened the life of Salman Rushdie in 1989 for writing his novel The Satanic Verses.  Did it ever occur to you that if Allah really found what he did to be that offensive, he would have struck down Rushdie Himself? The fact that He never did is evidence to me that either Allah could not do it (why worship such a weak god?) , or that he didn’t see fit to (why do yourselves what He would not?). In short, Allah willed the act of “blasphemy”. So why not condemn Him too? Why is your faith in Allah so weak, that you deem yourselves to be more of a judge of what is worthy of death than Allah Himself? Note that the one who passed the death sentence on Rushdie with a fatwa, Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini, died soon afterwards, while Rushdie still lives today! It seems clear that it  was Khomeini who was the blasphemer, not Rushdie!

Do not be so foolish as to make anyone or anything, including the religion of Islam and the deeds and words of the Prophet Muhammad, above criticism! Remember that Muhammad himself strongly criticised the Jewish and Christian religions, even while stating that their followers were “People of the Book”. Likewise, allowing criticism of Islam in public is in keeping with the verse in the Quran that declares: “There is no compulsion in religion.” (Sura 2:256). How can there be no compulsion in religion if you threaten critics of Islam and the Prophet Muhammad with death, you hypocrites!?

Islam is not superior to any other religion. If you think otherwise, then why would Allah will the existence of other faiths? Why is Christianity still the most popular religion at nearly two billion followers? Is it not possible that Muhammad intended Islam for Arabs only rather than for all the peoples of the world? Why insist on one truth for the whole world when science cannot even find the existence of Allah anywhere, let alone the dogmas of Islam?

The Quran is but a book, revealed by Muhammad. To say that it is equal to Allah himself is blasphemy, yet I always get the impression that you seem to think every word of the Quran should be believed in and obeyed absolutely. NO! Don’t you know that the Quran was not even completely assembled until several years after the death of Muhammad? How can we be sure all of it is accurately transcribed  and really from the Prophet?

I am disgusted by the practice of older Muslim men marrying girls as young as 12 and making them fall pregnant. What a violation of the girls’ dignity! Yes, I know of the story that Muhammad married a nine-year old girl. I also know that he and Aisha never had children, so it is possible that the marriage was never consummated. I’d rather beleive that than assume that he was a pedophile, as some have alleged! In any case, are you forgetting that the Prophet was a man and not to be seen as equal with Allah himself? Why assume that if Muhammad did something 1400 years ago, it must be right to do even today? Have you no minds of your own? If you are given brains by Allah and do not use them to determine truth from falsehood and morality from what is immoral, those brains are wasted and thus Allah is dishonored. If your only sources of truth and morality is Islam and the actions of Prophet Muhammad, what will you do if it is revealed to you on the Day of Judgement that Muhammad was not a Prophet at all? Honorable Skeptics like myself don’t worry about that, because we have morals that do not depend on any faith.

It is said among Muslims, “There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his Prophet.” But an atheist would say, “There is no god and Muhammad was no prophet.” If a Muslim denies Hinduism, the Baha’i Faith and atheism, why can’t the atheist and the Hindu deny Islam (the Baha’i would not; all Baha’is see Muhammad as a Prophet)?

How dare you claim Islam is Allah’s final religion! Why put any limits on the Word of Allah? Why tell him to be silent and speak no more? Isn’t that also blasphemy? I think so!

Remember what the Quran also says, in Sura 109: “Say: O disbelievers! I worship not that which ye worship; Nor worship ye that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which ye worship. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.” Follow THAT, and you will follow the example of Allah, who is Merciful.

المسلمين، والحصول على الحياة!

Note: This is an Arabic translation of a blog entry I made years before:
https://dalehusband.com/2010/05/04/muslims-get-a-life/

هذا هو خطاب مفتوح لجميع أولئك الذين اعتناق الدين الإسلامي.
هل نؤمن حقا بالله، الذي يوصف طوال القرآن باسم “الرحمن الرحيم”، وكذلك “الغفور”؟ ويبدو أن العديد من رفاقك في الإيمان وليس مجرد استخدام اسمه لتدمير حياة الناس والحرية!
أنا لم ننس كيف أن بعض من كنت تهدد حياة سلمان رشدي في عام 1989 لكتابة روايته آيات شيطانية. إلا أنها تحدث أي وقت مضى لك أنه إذا كان الله وجدت حقا ما فعله ليكون هذا الهجوم، لكان قد ألغت رشدي نفسه؟ سمعة ولم يفعل ذلك دليلا لي إما الله لا يمكن أن يفعل ذلك (لماذا هذه العبادة ضعيفة إله؟)، أو أنه لم تراه مناسبا ل(لماذا أنفسكم ما هو لا؟). باختصار، شاء الله فعل “التجديف”. فلماذا لا تدين له أيضا؟ لماذا هو إيمانك بالله ضعيفة جدا، التي ترونها أنفسكم أن أكثر من قاض ما يستحق الموت من الله نفسه؟ ويلاحظ أن الذي أصدر حكم الإعدام على رشدي مع فتوى الزعيم الإيراني أياتولاه خوميني، وتوفي بعد ذلك بوقت قصير، في حين رشدي لا يزال يعيش اليوم! ويبدو ذلك واضحا أنه كان الخميني الذي كان مجدفا، وليس رشدي!
لا تكن أحمق وذلك لجعل أي شخص أو أي شيء، بما في ذلك دين الإسلام وأفعال وأقوال النبي محمد، فوق النقد! تذكر أن محمدا نفسه انتقد بشدة الديانتين اليهودية والمسيحية، وحتى حين قالت إن ثمة أتباعهم “أهل الكتاب”. وبالمثل، انتقادات السماح الإسلام في الجمهور وذلك تمشيا مع قوله تعالى في القرآن الكريم أن يعلن: “لا إكراه في الدين” (سورة البقرة 2: 256). كيف يمكن أن يكون هناك لا إكراه في الدين إذا كنت تهدد المنتقدين للإسلام والنبي محمد مع الموت، وكنت المنافقين!؟
الإسلام ليس أفضل من أي دين آخر. إذا كنت تعتقد خلاف ذلك، ثم لماذا الله في وجود الأديان الأخرى؟ لماذا المسيحية لا يزال الدين الأكثر شعبية في ما يقرب من ملياري أتباع؟ أليس من الممكن أن محمدا يقصد الإسلام للعرب فقط وليس لجميع شعوب العالم؟ لماذا الإصرار على حقيقة واحدة للعالم كله عندما العلم لا يمكن أن تجد حتى وجود الله في أي مكان، ناهيك عن العقائد في الإسلام؟
القرآن ما هو إلا كتاب، كشف محمد. أن أقول أنه يساوي الله نفسه هو الكفر، ولكن أنا دائما انطباع بأنك ويبدو أن أعتقد أن كل كلمة من القرآن يجب أن beleived في ويطاع تماما. NO! لا تعلمون أن القرآن لم يكن حتى تجميعها بشكل كامل حتى عدة سنوات بعد وفاة محمد؟ كيف يمكننا أن نتأكد من كل من هو نسخها بدقة وحقا من النبي؟
أنا أشعر بالاشمئزاز جراء ممارسات رجال مسلمين كبار السن يتزوجون فتيات لا تتجاوز أعمارهن 12 و جعلها تقع حاملا. ما انتهاكا لكرامة الفتيات! نعم، أنا أعرف محمد تزوج من فتاة عمرها تسع سنوات. وأنا أعلم أيضا أنه وعائشة لم يكن الأطفال، ولذلك فمن الممكن أن الزواج كان يكتمل أبدا فما استقاموا لكم فاستقيموا بدلا من أصدق هذا يفترض أنه كان شاذ جنسيا، والبعض alledged! في أي حال، هل ننسى هذا كان النبي رجل وليس أن ينظر إليها على قدم المساواة مع الله نفسه؟ لماذا نفترض أنه إذا فعلت شيئا محمد قبل 1400 سنة، فإنه يجب أن يكون الصحيح الذي ينبغي عمله حتى اليوم؟ هل لا عقول بنفسك؟ إذا كنت يتم إعطاء العقول الله وعدم استخدامها لتحديد الحق من الباطل والأخلاق من ما هو غير أخلاقي، وإهدار تلك العقول وبالتالي يهان الله. إذا المصدر الوحيد للحقيقة والأخلاق الخاص بك هو الإسلام وأفعال النبي محمد، ماذا ستفعل إذا تبين لك يوم القيامة إن محمدا كان لا نبي على الإطلاق؟ المشككون مشرفة مثلي لا تقلق بشأن ذلك، لأن لدينا الأخلاق التي لا تعتمد على أي دين.
ويقال بين المسلمين، “لا إله إلا الله، وأن محمدا رسول الله”. ولكن هل الملحد يقول، “لا إله وكان Muhmmad لا نبي.” إذا رفضت مسلم الهندوسية والبهائية والإلحاد، لماذا لا يمكن الحادي والهندوسية ينكر الإسلام (البهائية لن؛ وكل البهائيين يرى محمد كنبي)؟
كيف تجرؤ على المطالبة الإسلام هو دين الله النهائي! لماذا وضع أي قيود على كلمة الله؟ ماذا أقول له أن يكون الصمت والكلام لا أكثر؟ هو أيضا ليس من الكفر؟ أعتقد ذلك!
أيضا تذكر ما يقول القرآن في سورة 109: “قل يا أيها الكافرون! التي لا أعبد ما تعبدون. ولا عبادة انتم ما أعبد. ويجب أن لا أعبد ما تعبدون. ولا أنتم عابدون ما أعبد. لكم دينكم، ولي ديني “. يتبع ذلك، وسوف تحذو حذو الله الذي هو الرحمن الرحيم.

If any who are fluent in Arabic can contact me and tell me how accurate this translation, via Google Translate, is, I would appreciate the input.

If Israel shouldn’t exist….

……neither should Pakistan. BOTH states were founded after World War II by followers of a specific religion who wanted to establish a society in which that religion would dominate it. Pakistan excluded Hindus and remains a hotbed of Muslim extremism to this day (which is why it was stupid for President Bush Jr. to accept Pakistan as an ally in his “War on Terrorism”, when in fact Osama Bin Ladin was hiding out in Pakistan for years until President Obama finally had him killed). And Israel continues to violate the rights of Palestinians by building and keeping Jewish settlements on the West Bank, thus stealing land the United Nations said was not theirs in 1947. Yet the United States also continues to support Israel, no matter what. Why is Jewish extremism more acceptable than Muslim extremism? Either accept both and the states made from them or condemn both and the states made from them. Not only one or the other, unless you are a religious bigot.

This understanding came to me after reading this:

http://skepchick.org/2013/03/whitefeminism/

While other countries are “Muslim” or “Islamic” because they just so happen to have a large Muslim population, Pakistan was founded by Muslims as a Muslim country in rather deliberate fashion.

I replied as follows:

Likewise, Israel was founded by Jews as a Jewish country in rather deliberate fashion. If one is illegitimate, so is the other. Can you discuss this too?

The blog author replied:

That isn’t at all part of my focus or within my scope as a blogger. There are plenty of critics of Israel and Zionism who can speak to such matters better than I can.

I then said:

I understand. My actual point is that I know of no anti-Zionists that also attack Pakistan for its existence as a Muslim state founded to separate its people from mostly Hindu India. Proving that they are more biased towards Islam and against Jews than any just person should be.

As an non-theist, I’m one of those “a plague on both your houses” people that gets it from both sides.

Contradictions of orthodox Islam

For the sake of argument, I define “orthodox” in Islam as including the beliefs common to both the Sunni and Shi’a Muslims, though the Sunnis themselves say only they are orthodox (much like orthodox Christians may be defined as including much more than the denominations called “Orthodox”, including Catholics and most Protestants).

There are several issues in Islam I find contradictory and thus I would never become a Muslim, even if I were to ever believe in a god again.

  1. Islam is said to be a world religion, appropriate for all peoples of the world to follow. This is absurd because Islam also makes Mecca the city that all Muslims must pray to five times a day and to make a pilgrimage to at least once in their lives. Islam also makes Arabic the default language for the Quran and for Muslim prayers and calls to prayer. Even Roman Catholicism no longer makes Latin the default language for Mass around the world. A truly worldly religion would have NO default language, no one city as the center of prayer and pilgrimage, and would see holiness in all places. We Unitarian Universalists might regard Boston as a place of historical significance to us, but we don’t pray to it!
  2. Islam is said to be the final religion, the Quran is Allah’s final revelation and Muhammad the last of the Prophets.   This contradicts the idea of Allah as an all-knowing, all-powerful, and thus totally sovereign deity. If Allah wills another revelation by a new Prophet, as Baha’is have claimed, it is not for anyone to deny this. The argument that past revelations have been corrupted is pointless, since Islam is still divided into various sects. A truly pure and uncorrupted revelation from Allah would never have allowed this.
  3. Islam condemns idolatry. Really? Then Muslims should stop regarding the Quran as the Word of Allah. Even official histories of Islam admit that it wasn’t put together until some years after Muhammad’s death. Why didn’t Muhammad himself do this? Also, walking seven times around the Kaaba in Mecca during pilgrimage looks too much like idolatry to me! It’s just a building! Also, see point 1 above.
  4. Islam teaches that men can have no more than four wives at a time. Then why did Muhammad have nine or ten wives at the time of his death? Muslims should make up their minds; you cannot hold Muhammad as a supreme example of Muslims to follow and then ignore that he himself broke a basic rule of marriage!

Theocracies by nature are evil

Religions as tools for social cohesion are indeed valid reasons for having them, since people are by nature social beings. However, using any religion that has demonstratively false dogmas as that tool is by nature unethical because you are encouraging people to lie to others about reality. It is even worse when you have a government take that religion and use force to make everyone follow it. All this does is make many people into hypocrites who act a certain way in public while privately doubting or denying the religion. This results in greater corruption. It is no coincidence that the ones who often come across as the most moral and are also deeply religious also turn out to be the most hypocritical. I think the reason for this is because their moral values are simply not based on anything real and things that are not based on reality are themselves not real. If you need to believe in the Bible, the Quran, or some other scripture to believe in God, to be moral or function in a social order, then you are actually a dangerous person because you will resort to all sorts of dishonest arguments, claims and assertions to keep your faith. Likewise, getting a government to enforce your religion on everyone merely makes the government dishonest. We shouldn’t tolerate this any more than we should tolerate mob bosses taking over a government.

Thus, Islamic states like those of Saudi Arabia and Iran are contemptible and should be condemned and opposed at every turn, and the concept of Sharia (Islamic law) should be completely thrown out in all societies. They are simply phony by nature!

Religion, imperialism, and oil

Christianity is the most popular religion in the world, with about 2 billion followers all over the world. Islam is the second most popular religion, with over a billion followers. Part of the reason Christianity is larger is because it is older, since it is about 2000 years old, as compared with Islam being only 1400 years old.

Another reason Christianity is more popular is because of its association with imperialism. First, it took over the Roman Empire. After the Roman Empire fell in 476 AD, the religion continued as the dominant ideology of the Byzantine Empire, which was a direct offshoot of the Roman one. Later, the Arabs built a vast empire using Islam as their unifying force, challenging the Byzantines. Finally, the Turks, another Islamic power, destroyed the Byzantine Empire.

Then the European powers spread their empires all over the world, taking Christianity with them. Islam remained relatively weak until two things happened to make it more powerful: European imperialism fell apart and oil was discovered in most parts of the Middle East. Suddenly,  the Arabs became  extremely rich due to their oil revenues, and with that wealth came the ability to spread Islam around the world. But in Europe, Christianity declined as the people became increasingly secular. The tragic events of World War II probably did more to destroy Europeans’ faith than anything else. Today, the USA is the most powerful Christian dominated nation in the world, but it is still secular in its government. And even here, religious influence is slowly declining.

I suspect that within another generation, Islam will surpass Christianity as the most popular world religion, but its power cannot last long, because oil is a nonrenewable resource. And when that oil runs out, the economies of the Middle Eastern  states that depend on oil will break down, and so will Islam.

What can freethinkers, atheists,  and secular humanists do to overcome this situation? They must do everything possible to end the dependence on oil, and indeed all other fossil fuels, and establish societies based on renewable and sustainable sources of energy such as wind, water, the sun and geothermal sources. Once at least some parts of the world are free from needing resources that are doomed to run out, we will have even less need for religions like Christianity and Islam.

Revert Muslims?

After a brief discussion with a Muslim friend in Facebook about religious tolerance, I noticed she often used the word “revert” in reference to herself and certain other Muslims. I’d never heard of that term before, so I googled the phrase “Muslim reverts”. I then found this:

http://www.revertmuslims.com/glossary.html

Revert            A person who returns to a religion they previously had; Muslim custom is to apply this term to converts to Islam as well, on the grounds that Islam is the religion that every person was born into, but their parents made them another religion. (Emphasis mine)

Gee, I wonder where that delusion came from. As I stated earlier, I don’t accept that babies are born atheists either.

Some atheists have gone further and asserted that atheism merely means “lacking belief in a god”, but that is illogical since what would follow from that is all newborn babies would therefore be atheist (they are born with NO beliefs at all) and this actually makes the term atheist useless for statistical purposes as well. It is ideologically useful (you can thus argue that atheism is a child’s natural state and thus religious indoctrination violates the child’s “true” nature), but has no empirical foundation.

An empirical case against the idea that a person can be born a Muslim is that babies do not practice any of the five pillars of Islam from birth; they must be taught those rituals by their parents and others.

Why can’t babies just be considered blank slates? Then one could argue that the default religious position of any child would be the religion his parents agree to raise  him in. I was raised a Southern Baptist, so that was my default position. I later deconverted from Christianity, joined a Unitarian Universalist church, converted to the Baha’i Faith, and finally reverted to Unitarian Universalism.

But no matter what else I do in my life, my past memberships in both the Southern Baptist Convention and the Baha’i Faith will always be a part of my existence. As I told my Muslim friend:  “I will pick fights with Christian extremists, atheist extremists, and even Muslim extremists. That’s because I figured out long ago that religion cannot be about objective truth, but about what fits your soul and identity. Whether there is one God, a billion gods, or no God, we all must live by what we know and can accept. To demand otherwise is to violate the very nature of what it means to be human.”

And to the end of my life, I know that my soul and my identity always will be linked to:

  • Agnosticism (my view of God)
  • Unitarian Universalism (my religious allegiance)
  • and Honorable Skepticism (my ethical philosophy)

NOT ISLAM OR ANY DOGMATIC GOD-CENTERED RELIGION!

Egyptians should be wary of the Muslim Brotherhood

Look at this article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110131/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_egypt_protest

Egyptian reform leader calls for Mubarak to resign

CAIRO – Egypt’s most prominent democracy advocate took up a bullhorn Sunday and called for President Hosni Mubarak to resign, speaking to thousands of protesters who defied a curfew for a third night. Fighter jets streaked low overhead and police returned to the capital’s streets — high-profile displays of authority over a situation spiraling out of control.

Nobel Peace laureate Mohamed ElBaradei’s appearance in Tahrir, or Liberation, Square underscored the jockeying for leadership of the mass protest movement that erupted seemingly out of nowhere in the past week to shake the Arab world’s most populous nation.

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Asked if Washington supports Mubarak as Egypt’s leader, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton avoided a direct answer, telling Fox News: “We have been very clear that we want to see a transition to democracy, and we want to see the kind of steps taken that will bring that about.”

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The outlawed Muslim Brotherhood, which wants to establish an Islamist state in Egypt, has made some statements that it was willing to let ElBaradei act as point man for the movement. But it also appeared to be moving for a more prominent role after lying low when the protests first erupted.

On Sunday evening, the presence of overtly pious Muslims in the square was conspicuous, suggesting a significant Brotherhood representation. Hundreds performed the sunset prayers. Veiled women prayed separately.

A senior Brotherhood leader, Essam el-Erian, told The Associated Press he was heading to Tahrir Square to meet with other opposition leaders. El-Erian told an Egyptian TV station that the Brotherhood is ready to contact the army for a dialogue, calling the military “the protector of the nation.”

Clinton suggested there were U.S. concerns over the possibility of the Brotherhood seizing direction of the movement. She warned against a takeover resembling the one in Iran, with a “small group that doesn’t represent the full diversity of Egyptian society” seizing control and imposing its ideological beliefs.

Indeed, if the Muslim Brotherhood does seize control of Egypt, it could easily become just as destructive to Egypt as the Taliban was to Afghanistan before it was overthrown in 2001.

The protesters should be supporting freedom, justice and peace. Any ideology that is based  on religious bigotry is the antithesis of these ideals. The people of Iran replaced one tyrant, the Shah, with another, the Ayatollah Khomeini, in 1979, and now Iran’s government is a fraud, supported by rigged and phony elections.

We must also remember that Mubarak’s predecessor, Anwar El Sadat, was assassinated by army members opposed to peace with Israel. Most likely they were similar to the Muslim Brotherhood members in their political views.

I don’t care if one chooses to follow Islam as a personal religion, but I urge Muslims to stop trying to make it the basis of a government!

Translations of Scriptures cannot be trusted

As critical as I am of the Baha’i Faith, I am equally critical of orthodox Islam, which the Baha’i Faith evolved from. The reason is simple: If you truly believe in an all-powerful and sovereign God, then the very idea that anything, like the Quran, can be the final revelation of God for all time is blasphemy. It is man telling God to be silent forever. So why not become atheist, then? I addressed this before:

https://dalehusband.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/muslims-get-a-life/

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If we can burn Qurans…

….why can’t we also burn Bibles?

Look at this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100907/ap_on_re_us/quran_burning

Pressure rises on pastor who wants to burn Quran

By MITCH STACY, Associated Press Writer Mitch Stacy, Associated Press Writer 11 mins ago

GAINESVILLE, Fla. – The government turned up the pressure Tuesday on the head of a small Florida church who plans to burn copies of the Quran on Sept. 11, warning him that doing so could endanger U.S. troops and Americans everywhere.

But the Rev. Terry Jones insisted he would go ahead with his plans, despite criticism from the top U.S. general in Afghanistan, the White House and the State Department, as well as a host of religious leaders.

Jones, who is known for posting signs proclaiming that Islam is the devil’s religion, says the Constitution gives him the right to publicly set fire to the book that Muslims consider the word of God.

Gen. David Petraeus warned Tuesday in an e-mail to The Associated Press that “images of the burning of a Quran would undoubtedly be used by extremists in Afghanistan — and around the world — to inflame public opinion and incite violence.” It was a rare example of a military commander taking a position on a domestic political matter.

Jones responded that he is also concerned but is “wondering, ‘When do we stop?'” He refused to cancel the protest set for Saturday at his Dove World Outreach Center, a church that espouses an anti-Islam philosophy.

“How much do we back down? How many times do we back down?” Jones told the AP. “Instead of us backing down, maybe it’s to time to stand up. Maybe it’s time to send a message to radical Islam that we will not tolerate their behavior.”

But atheists say that Christianity is just as corrupt, abusive, and bogus as Islam. Therefore, if this Christian pastor wants to burn the Islamic holy book, then atheists should feel just as free to burn the Bible, the holy book of the pastor’s religion. What goes around, comes around.

Of course, it would be better to burn no books at all. Not even Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf. Studying the books’ contents and refuting their claims is always better.

A disturbing video about Islam

Watch this:

My response to it is as follows.

First, the Quran was not revealed in one piece, but in bits and pieces over several decades and was not even assembled in its final form until some years after the passing of the Prophet Muhammad. Thus we need not assume it is totally accurate in its statements. See these earlier blog entries:

https://dalehusband.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/the-chain-of-abrahamic-religions-is-too-rusty-and-weak/

https://dalehusband.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/muslims-get-a-life/

Second, who is to say that Muslims have to assume that the “later” verses of the Quran that teach intolerance for non-Muslims have abrogated the “earlier” ones that preach tolerance? Only those who either want to promote Islamic extremism or those who want to destroy Islam itself. Ironic, that these two factions would have that in common, even while opposing each other as well as moderates among both Muslims and non-Muslims. This alone shows the absurdity of their positions. Also, who says we have to follow every detail of the barbaric Sharia law when adopting Islam? Shouldn’t it be enough to simply follow the Five Pillars of Islam?

  1. Proclaim publicly, “There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is His Prophet.”
  2. Pray five times daily.
  3. Give alms to the poor.
  4. Fast during the daytime at the month of Ramadan.
  5. Make a pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in your lifetime.

Anything beyond that seems irrelevant. Sharia Law seems to be a man-made addition to the original Islam. If it is indeed from Allah, why do Muslims leaders specify only Five Pillars and not more? These Five Pillars certainly do NOT imply attempts to subvert and destroy other religions and secular societies.

Third, if Muslims are allowed to lie in order to spread Islam, isn’t that a logical reason to conclude that Islam itself is full of lies and thus not worth following by anyone? One must wonder if Christians and followers of other faiths pull the same sort of stunts. See this:

https://dalehusband.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/lying-about-history-for-the-bible/

The references to the Quran that are supposed to be so shocking are not specified in the video above. So where are they and what do they really say? Until those are revealed, that video should be held as skeptically as Islam itself may be.

The most insane channel on YouTube

The notorious VenomFangX finally came to his senses and left YouTube for good, but there are other deranged religious extremists out there that are just as horrible and rediculous. Case in point, this absurdity:

http://www.youtube.com/user/BereanBeacon

It’s not just anti-evolution, like most fundamentalist Christians would be, but vehemently anti-Catholic too. And it is obsessed with hell also.  It looks like a YouTube version of Jack T. Chick’s publications.

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Muslims, get a life!

This is an open letter to all those who profess the Islamic religion, including some that may be friends of mine.

Do you REALLY believe in Allah, who is described throughout the Quran as “the Merciful” as well as “Forgiving”? It seems that many of your comrades in faith do not and merely use His name to destroy people’s lives and freedom!

I have not forgotten how some of you threatened the life of Salman Rushdie in 1989 for writing his novel The Satanic Verses.  Did it ever occur to you that if Allah really found what he did to be that offensive, he would have struck down Rushdie Himself? The fact that He never did is evidence to me that either Allah could not do it (why worship such a weak god?) , or that he didn’t see fit to (why do yourselves what He would not?). In short, Allah willed the act of “blasphemy”. So why not condemn Him too? Why is your faith in Allah so weak, that you deem yourselves to be more of a judge of what is worthy of death than Allah Himself? Note that the one who passed the death sentence on Rushdie with a fatwa, Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini, died soon afterwards, while Rushdie still lives today! It seems clear that it  was Khomeini who was the blasphemer, not Rushdie!

Do not be so foolish as to make anyone or anything, including the religion of Islam and the deeds and words of the Prophet Muhammad, above criticism! Remember that Muhammad himself strongly criticised the Jewish and Christian religions, even while stating that their followers were “People of the Book”. Likewise, allowing criticism of Islam in public is in keeping with the verse in the Quran that declares: “There is no compulsion in religion.” (Sura 2:256). How can there be no compulsion in religion if you threaten critics of Islam and the Prophet Muhammad with death, you hypocrites!?

Islam is not superior to any other religion. If you think otherwise, then why would Allah will the existence of other faiths? Why is Christianity still the most popular religion at nearly two billion followers? Is it not possible that Muhammad intended Islam for Arabs only rather than for all the peoples of the world? Why insist on one truth for the whole world when science cannot even find the existence of Allah anywhere, let alone the dogmas of Islam?

The Quran is but a book, revealed by Muhammad. To say that it is equal to Allah himself is blasphemy, yet I always get the impression that you seem to think every word of the Quran should be believed in and obeyed absolutely. NO! Don’t you know that the Quran was not even completely assembled until several years after the death of Muhammad? How can we be sure all of it is accurately transcribed  and really from the Prophet?

I am disgusted by the practice of older Muslim men marrying girls as young as 12 and making them fall pregnant. What a violation of the girls’ dignity! Yes, I know of the story that Muhammad married a nine-year old girl. I also know that he and Aisha never had children, so it is possible that the marriage was never consummated. I’d rather beleive that than assume that he was a pedophile, as some have alledged! In any case, are you forgetting that the Prophet was a man and not to be seen as equal with Allah himself? Why assume that if Muhammad did something 1400 years ago, it must be right to do even today? Have you no minds of your own? If you are given brains by Allah and do not use them to determine truth from falsehood and morality from what is immoral, those brains are wasted and thus Allah is dishonored. If your only sources of truth and morality is Islam and the actions of Prophet Muhammad, what will you do if it is revealed to you on the Day of Judgement that Muhammad was not a Prophet at all? Honorable Skeptics like myself don’t worry about that, because we have morals that do not depend on any faith.

It is said among Muslims, “There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his Prophet.” But an atheist would say, “There is no god and Muhammad was no prophet.” If a Muslim denies Hinduism, the Baha’i Faith and atheism, why can’t the atheist and the Hindu deny Islam (the Baha’i would not; all Baha’is see Muhammad as a Prophet)?

How dare you claim Islam is Allah’s final religion! Why put any limits on the Word of Allah? Why tell him to be silent and speak no more? Isn’t that also blasphemy? I think so!

Remember what the Quran also says, in Sura 109: “Say: O disbelievers! I worship not that which ye worship; Nor worship ye that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which ye worship. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.” Follow THAT, and you will follow the example of Allah, who is Merciful.