Arrogance and Hatred on YouTube

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Look at this video:

So this YouTuber, Nuxanor, is calling out another YouTuber, Mamamax, for the heinous offense of “pedojacking”, a form of defamation in which you falsely accuse a person of being a pedophile, something I know of all too well. 

Nuxanor (Nux for short), even apologizes for being friends with Mamamax and believing his lies.

But it seems that was not enough for some who commented about the video.

Nux, you need to apologize.
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It was obvious to me that most of those demanding that Nux apologize never saw the entire video (It’s over an hour long, so that may be understandable). So I decided to speak out.
 
It’s obvious that some of you never bothered to watch the whole video above, did you?! “Hey nux why haven’t you apologized to magnetar?” “Friendly reminder that Nux still has yet to apologize to magnetar (and probably never will)” “I love you and Muta but you should really apologize to magnetar this dude has his life ruined by max” Well….. 1:14:51That sounds like an apology, to MANY people. So cut the hating, dammit!
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Indeed, an apology is an apology and you don’t get to decide that it is not because you don’t accept it. And who the fuk are these people to speak on behalf of Magnetar? Did Magnetar himself demand that Nuxanor give a direct, personal apology to him? If he did, then he should have made a comment on the video in question. But I didn’t see any such thing. So you know what those other users were doing? Virtue signaling, nothing more!
 
That became clear once I went after one of the haters to call her out on her attitude.
Apologize for WHAT?!
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 @DaleHusband  For believing false accusations when there was no proof of any actual wrongdoings.
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 @maylabrown4584  you might as well demand someone apologize for being religious. It seems that Nux BELIEVED Mamamax because they were friends, though with this video they clearly are not now. I would assume with this video, Nux IS apologizing.
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 @DaleHusband  No? Nux never apologized and that false equivalence is just stupid, believing in a religion is not the same as believing supposed sexual allegations. Go back to school.
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 @maylabrown4584  Your opinion is noted, on both issues. BTW, I’m atheist. I’m also forgiving of people that are willing to admit they were wrong and change course. I had to do that last year after the iilluminaughtii crap played out. Should I apologize for being her fan in the past? No, because she lied to me too. Also, being self-righteous helps no one.
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 @DaleHusband  I’m not being self-righteous and I’m an Agnostic so I don’t believe in any God either, I don’t see how that or you being an Atheist has to do with anything. It’s kind of cringe to just state out of the blue actually. Nux has not admitted he was wrong about Magnetar, he has only admitted to being wrong about Mamamax, he has not apologized either to Mamamax. You are not a YouTuber, you have no platform, but Nux is one and he used it to further false accusations on an innocent person. A Content Creator you happen to like being found to be a bad person is not the same as a Content Creator accusing another Control Creator of being a p*do, are you thinking before you type? To be clear, I’m replying clearly and concisely but using antagonistic wording to get across my frustration towards your faulty arguments, that does not lessen the point of my arguments in any way besides personal preference.
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Now she had crossed a serious ethical line!
 @maylabrown4584  Nux actually DID apologize in the video above, here:1:14:51If you choose not to accept that, so be it. But I despise people who come across as having some sort of superiority complex. WTF makes you think you can talk down to me, to Nux, or anyone else?
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 @DaleHusband  That is not an apology whatsoever to Magnetar, he stated he’s sorry for anyone that got hate for what he said, he didn’t say sorry for what he said directly and to who it effected by his own actions. Just the actions of his fanbase, that’s like saying that I’m sorry that my car ended up hitting you, when I was the driver of the car in the first place. It’s half-assed as can be, no, a real direct apology is needed if he wants to actually be seen as someone aware of their wrongdoings and is open to doing better in the future. There is no superiority complex to asking someone to apologize for the very wrong action they did, it’s common sense. If you think stating clearly why you’re wrong is being talked down to then YOU’RE the one with the superiority complex. You are no one to not be called out on as wrong, neither is Nux and neither is anyone.
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@maylabrown4584  You did not prove me wrong about anything; you merely contradicted me. That’s why I call you arrogant. I was the one that showed an actual apology from him, that you chose not to be satisfied with.
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 @DaleHusband  I proved your points wrong numerous times at this point, from what an actual apology is and the absence of an apology that is present in this video despite that not being the case. To your usage of false equivalences such as a believer of religion being equated to someone who believed a false sexual allegations or you equating yourself being a former fan of another YouTuber that was exposed for bad actions to a YouTuber with a platform that spread severe allegations with no shred of evidence to support them. Contradicting you would be if I said that the (non-existent) apology wasn’t enough, but rather I’m saying that the apology doesn’t exist at all in the first place
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@maylabrown4584  You clearly only want to double down on your arrogance instead of accepting with humility that people can have honest differences of opinion. That’s not and never will be my fault. You even had the audacity to say this nonsense to me: “You are not a YouTuber, you have no platform,” when in fact I do. My channel has: 412 subscribers ‧ 877 videos YOU on the other hand have only: 21 subscribers And NO content you uploaded on it. So I have shown that not only are you disagreeable as hell…..YOU ARE AN OUTRIGHT LIAR!
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I really can’t stand toxic people who are unable to admit to being wrong and only want to keep hating someone no matter what they do or say. 
There is a name for what those haters were doing.

2 thoughts on “Arrogance and Hatred on YouTube”

  1. I looked up Magnetar’s YouTube channel:
    https://www.youtube.com/@MagnetarYT

    And found this statement:

    https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx97vs28KxO_yuieb81TJnyhs0bWwhlh7O

    {{{ Magnetar

    In August 2022, as a way to deflect accusations against him from former friends and girlfriends, YouTuber MamaMax retaliated against me by labeling me a pedophile.

    He said I was a predator with multiple victims – based on nothing but anonymous, unverified messages from an alleged victim and testimony from his own sister.

    My life turned upside down – His accusation against me was viewed nearly 1 million times and led thousands of people to flood my accounts, both YouTube and personal.

    They sent death threats. They sent me photos of them outside my office building. They shared my home address. They spammed my friends and co-workers. They called and texted me.

    Friends, coworkers, and even fans got spammed. Some creators I admired stayed silent, and others cut ties

    People I collaborated with stopped talking to me. Viewers canceled memberships and left notes of how disappointed they were in me.

    Suicide was, at one point, a serious thought.

    Eventually, it died down. But the fear and anxiety and the fucking anger was still there.

    In 2023, to try and reset my brain and improve my mental health, I took two months of medical leave from my job. It helped a little. And I feel like the girls and I were able to largely move on from everything that happened in 2022/2023.

    And then last weekend, Max made the claims again.

    I was sick to my stomach and shaking all night because I was TERRIFIED we would be in for another horrible wave of attacks.

    Funny enough, in this same stream he made these claims, he was also absolutely obliterated by his audience and other content creators for a laundry list of things he had been fucking up for years.

    The extent of his issues are still being dug through, but falsifying things in his content, lying, and generally being untrustworthy and unhinged are just some ways we can now VERIFIABLY describe him.

    Didn’t plan to rant, but gotta say thanks to everyone who had my back, and the girls too.

    And THANK YOU to the dozens of content creators and others who are doing the work to – finally – hold Max Stryker accountable.

    👾 ❤

    If you want insight on the situation:

    https://t.co/YMKlEFA4Ez

    https://t.co/5valBZyuxE

    https://t.co/yWMyhvbTcD }}}

    And you know what I did NOT find there? Any specific reference to Nuxanor as someone who owed him any apology! He only condemned Mamamax.

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  2. Meanwhile, MamaMax still has his channel up.

    https://www.youtube.com/@MamaMax/featured

    And he made this statement two weeks ago:
    https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkxj-t73oOhfhaRM5cbkWuyYuOzDrYDCb4X

    {{{Addressing everything soon.}}}

    That’s it?!

    Fortunately, that useless post is being slammed with tons of negative comments. Here’s one in particular:

    {{{@bjornnuel

    There’s only one solution here Max.

    1) Own up to what you did. No blame shifting, no explaining. Just admit you mishandled this case and crippled any viability it had into oblivion by making an entertainment piece out of it instead of a true effort to get justice*.

    2) Any money you have left goes to legal council for the victims for them to get ACTUAL, PROPER advice from people who STUDIED TO and ARE CAPABLE OF giving such advice. No money splitting, no paying for expenses, no safekeeping money. You pay an attorney or a legal council and let the survivors get advice from a PROPER expert. If there is money left over you could donate it to ACTUAL child protection charities, or Child Focus.

    3) Give up. YOU broke YOUR OWN image into a thousand pieces. No one else is to blame here. No one forced you to go spouting this case around to other influencers before you were properly prepared. You have enough money to seek legal advice from REAL experts. Other YouTubers were never the right source for advice here anyways. There is no comming back Max. The pit only goes deeper if you don’t do as described above. Stop your YouTube Channel. Your fanbase is broken and disappointed and your (false) aura of authority has faded.

    You are NOT a credible source. You are NOT a representative of hurt and exploited people.

    *) Justice as in legal justice. Not whatever you think justice is. Shaming and publicly naming someone to a large YouTube audience is not Justice. }}}

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