Conservatives among Unitarian Universalists Still Feel Like Victims

Last week I posted this in a Reddit Unitarian Universalist group:

Several days later, this comment was posted there:

Unfortunately we no longer offer better. It is much, much worse at UU. If you are the slightest bit center politically (or worse, right), you will be cast aside. And this is an organization that is supposed to be about faith. It is really a liberal political organization now.

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Really? So when has the UUA NOT been a political organization? If we want to make a better society, why not be political?

I looked at this person’s history in reddit and found these:

Everything you said was spot on. Our congregation and another one we followed were the most racist spaces I have ever encountered and I have lived in the South for the last 20 years. Everyone is judged by their race, not their words, thoughts, or actions. Heinous behavior is condoned, as long as the offender is a “social justice warrior, fighting on the side of truth.” If you are not a left leaning liberal (ideally white and well off), you will never feel welcome. That is evident by the current membership and minorities like myself that have left and now have no place of worship.

I don’t go to congregation on Sunday to discuss whatever MSNBC or Mother Jones are currently discussing. UU is now a political organization and should be striped of its tax exempt status.

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I know almost everyone in here (the extreme minority that is left and active in UU) disagrees with the author. I left the church for most of these reasons. When we started, it as an open, welcoming place where all were tolerated and welcomed with open arms. In 2016 when Donald Trump was elected and the UUA assembly debacles that followed, we no longer felt welcome.

I am a conservative (not republican), Asian, non Christian. The tone of the entire organization has shifted more and more left and privileged as time goes on. Look at the UUA Facebook page, it is ridiculous and followers have decreased over the last few years. It’s sad when most posts have no comments. The UUA is increasingly catering to a minority of their members, many of whom do not actively attend the organization anymore.

When a person of color does show up (myself included), it was ridiculous. Our opinions were not valued because they were our opinions, but simply because of the color of our skin. In trying to be more inclusive, the organization became more racist. No non white person (this is literally all rich white UU members seem to do these days) wants to get in a room and watch rich white people flog themselves all day and apologize for transgressions that may or may not have ever happened. It is tiresome and has nothing to do with fellowship. It just makes those members feel better.

I would love to return to a pre 2016 organization or one who actually follows the tenants that we are supposed to. Everyone is welcome, what a joke. The only people that are welcome are rich white liberals.

There may be hope in individual congregations, but my family (everyone else left as well) will never return as long as the UUA at large is committed to spending more time on political matters than ones of faith.

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So you have left the UUs because they are too political. But I wonder if you would have a problem with evangelical Christians in religious organizations being hard-core conservatives, even supporters of Donald Trump and his racism?

No, because you are a conservative yourself! No doubt, if you had your way, there would be NO religious organizations at all representing the left, liberalism, and progressive values at all. RIGHT?!

Liberals like me have been demonized in the media and by Republicans for decades. You just don’t like it when we start to fight back!

So I moved to stop the bullshit. I didn’t delete the offensive comment, but…..

I didn’t post this to start a political fight here, and I won’t allow one here now. This thread will be locked.

2 thoughts on “Conservatives among Unitarian Universalists Still Feel Like Victims

  1. redempire36’s statements strike me as disingenuous. Even his very screen name seems to indicate he would favor a right-wing fascist state.

    {{{Our congregation and another one we followed were the most racist spaces I have ever encountered and I have lived in the South for the last 20 years.}}}
    But he doesn’t really explain how any UU fellowship would be more racist than a typical Southern Baptist church, for example.

    {{{Everyone is judged by their race, not their words, thoughts, or actions. Heinous behavior is condoned, as long as the offender is a “social justice warrior, fighting on the side of truth.”}}}
    I have NEVER heard of any UUs doing this at all. My bullshit meter is beginning to go off.

    {{{If you are not a left leaning liberal (ideally white and well off), you will never feel welcome.}}}
    He just said that “Everyone is judged by their race, not their words, thoughts, or actions.” Now he says the exact opposite,

    {{{I don’t go to congregation on Sunday to discuss whatever MSNBC or Mother Jones are currently discussing.}}}
    Now I KNOW he is lying because I never heard any UU minister doing that in sermons, If he does not want to discuss politics, he can ignore what others are doing. The real issue seems to be that he wants others to STOP discussing politics he disagrees with!

    {{{When we started, it as an open, welcoming place where all were tolerated and welcomed with open arms. In 2016 when Donald Trump was elected and the UUA assembly debacles that followed, we no longer felt welcome.}}}
    He seems to have mistaken tolerance and being welcoming with having no principles. His loss. And Trump was promoting racist and Islamophobic policies that totally go against UU Principles.

    {{{Look at the UUA Facebook page, it is ridiculous and followers have decreased over the last few years. It’s sad when most posts have no comments.}}}
    That’s because most UUs prefer to form and run their own groups.

    {{{Our opinions were not valued because they were our opinions, but simply because of the color of our skin. In trying to be more inclusive, the organization became more racist. No non white person (this is literally all rich white UU members seem to do these days) wants to get in a room and watch rich white people flog themselves all day and apologize for transgressions that may or may not have ever happened. It is tiresome and has nothing to do with fellowship. It just makes those members feel better.}}}

    Please do not claim to speak for others and do not attempt to read others’ minds……you suck at both!

    {{{The only people that are welcome are rich white liberals.}}}
    Now he is completely engaging in hyperbole. I’m not rich at all and I’ve been a UU for decades. And UUs of color have fought to make the UUA more inclusive, not less.

    So I don’t believe redempire36 is a UU at all, but a troll seeking to start fights among us by completely misrepresenting what we are about.

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