Dentists, sex dolls and pedophiles, oh my!

This story, and variations of it, are all over the web now:

http://www.cnngo.com/tokyo/life/japanese-turn-sex-doll-dental-training-robot-976056

Japanese turn sex doll into dental-training robot

Tokyo university reveals realistic synthi-patient, claims “root canal” gags play no part in its appeal
By Mark Hiratsuka 1 July, 2011

Tokyo frequently presents a story that’s borderline fiction — sex dolls for cavity-filling practice, puhlease — but the pedigree of the new Hanako Showa 2 dental training robot tells us this is no product of a fevered imagination.

We previously saw big sister, plain Jane Hanako Showa, in early 2010, noting that the synthetic patient was being used in the Showa University dental school for more than simple caries-evacuation practice on her plumbed-in dentures.

That model even incorporated the concept of being female simply so junior dentists could learn not to accidentally fondle her breasts. We kid you not.

Silicone sheath

So, a year and a half later, little sis makes her bow sheathed not in her sibling’s PVC skin, but lifelike silicone, and sporting a host of internal modifications besides.

Hanako 2 genuinely is based on a Dutch Wife-style love doll from Orient Industry in Tokyo’s Taito Ward — trust us, you don’t want to click that link at work — giving her a head start in the “realistic” stakes.

Aside from the human-feel skin on her face, mouth and tongue, she also contains robotics that allow her to mimic a range of motions, including sneezing and gagging when clumsy trainees dip their instruments too far into her gullet.

Talkative, ain’t she?

Hanako 2 also has the gift of the gab and can chat with her human companions about how she’s feeling, what ails her and, probably, how she can manage to speak with all that medical metal in her face.

Japan being Japan, there’s clearly no scope for the tried-and-trusted medical school technique of pulling passersby in off the street for a free “checkup.”

Rather, Tokyo’s finest would-be dentists get to grapple with a chimera created originally for self-gratification, but packed instead with cutting-edge robotics and put to work in the name of a nation’s oral health. It’s a beautiful thing.

My first reaction to this was, “Wow, here’s another example of Japanese technical wizardry being put to a good use! It’s certain better to train dentists with dolls that can react like real patients than with real patients that might be injured or infected due to a mistake.”

BTW, I omitted the photo that came with the article.  But here is a video that better  shows the robot being used by dental trainees:

Then I clicked one of the links on the article above, being unfamiliar with sex dolls, and saw this:

http://www.orient-doll.com/top.html

Warning: NSFW!

Then I went further and clicked on THIS:

http://www.orient-doll.com/nano/

[blink, blink…..WTF???!!!]

Yes, it took a moment for my mind to register that I was actually looking at dolls of very young GIRLS, not grown women! Indeed, they and these others, actually looked about ten to twelve years old!

But as repulsive as I found the idea of a man using a doll of a little girl as a sex toy, then something else occured to me. Just as dental students and their future patients benefit from them training on patients that are not real, what if allowing pedophiles to engage in sexual behavior with such dolls prevents them from molesting real girls?

It should be noted that unlike homosexuality (which was only considered a “disease” and a “perversion” in the past because of people blindly believing irrational Biblical dogmas), pedophilia is indeed a destructive manifestation of sexual dysfunction. The reason is simple: Children that have not yet reached puberty, while they may have a gender, do NOT have any sexual orientation. Even if a boy finds a girl attractive at that age, he has no natural tendency to have sex with her. That was certainly the case with me, and if an older man had attempted to engage me in sexual behavior of any kind, I would have found it repulsive in the extreme. Thus, sex between adults and prepubescent children is unnatural and disruptive and should never be tolerated in any society.

On the other hand….

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_doll#Novelty_forms

Some inflatable dolls even have the form of children. However, owners may be pursued for possession of child pornography material.[11]

Which then led me to:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/blow-dolls-jail-bait

Blow-Up Dolls Jail Bait?

Feds say perv possessed anatomically-correct inflatable child toys

SEPTEMBER 21–Federal agents investigating the online trafficking of child pornography were surprised recently to learn of the latest sick twist in their pervert hunt: pedophiles are now consorting with child-sized blow-up dolls. While executing a search warrant on August 23 at a Long Island home, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents discovered several ‘inflated, anatomically-correct child sexual dolls, which were dressed as children,’ according to an arrest warrant, a copy of which you’ll find at left. In a footnote, ICE agent Richard Branda noted that, ‘during the course of this investigation agents became aware that inflatable sexual dolls of children are apparently sold in the same manner as inflatable sexual dolls of adults.’ Probers were raiding the Levittown home of Peter List, 59, as part of an online kiddie porn probe; they netted thousands of photos and video clips depicting children engaged in sexual conduct. List was arrested on a felony count and later released from a federal lockup on $300,000 bond. He was named Tuesday in a six-count indictment charging him with possession of child pornography. The indictment includes a provision seeking the forfeiture of List’s computer equipment and ‘three inflatable child dolls.’ During the ICE raid, List, a hospital employee, told agents that he had dressed the inflatable dolls himself. (8 pages)

And then I thought, “Hold it. Assuming that pedophiles’ sexual drives are as irrepressible as the sex drives of other people, what’s the harm being done here?”

Certainly, while child pornography that uses actual children as the subjects should be illegal (for the reason I specified above), a sex doll in the form of a child is NOT the same thing! Are sex dolls in the form of adults considered pornographic too? Clearly, the law has made a mistake here!

So what is the solution? Should we lock up pedophiles for the rest of their lives or even execute them all? Or should we instead give pedophiles, whether they have ever molested a child or not, the chance to own legally one of the child like sex dolls, use them frequently, and thus never feel the need to violate the innocence of another child? As long as their privacy is respected afterwards, that seems to be a solution people of all types should be willing to live with. 

6 thoughts on “Dentists, sex dolls and pedophiles, oh my!

  1. “It should be noted that unlike homosexuality (which was only considered a “disease” and a “perversion” in the past because of people blindly believing irrational Biblical dogmas), pedophilia is indeed a destructive manifestation of sexual dysfunction. ”

    Pedophilia is not a dysfunction, is a sexual orientation, and is certainly not destructive.

    “The reason is simple: Children that have not yet reached puberty, while they may have a gender, do NOT have any sexual orientation. ”

    … So? Does that mean that children are incapable of loving, or of feeling pleasure?

    We are born with sexual organs, so children are as capable as adults of feeling sexual pleasure. If sex is about pleasure, whats the problem?

    “Even if a boy finds a girl attractive at that age, he has no natural tendency to have sex with her.”

    You obviously dont know many children, right? Children do have sexual impulses and desires.

    “That was certainly the case with me, and if an older man had attempted to engage me in sexual behavior of any kind, I would have found it repulsive in the extreme. ”

    And you are entitled to, but dont generalize the desires you had to the desires all children have. Some children fall in love with older persons.

    “Thus, sex between adults and prepubescent children is unnatural and disruptive and should never be tolerated in any society.”

    Well, disregarding the fact that you didnt prove anything, I would say that sex between adults and children IS natural (how couldnt it be?) and non-disruptive, if it is done for pleasure and mutual consent.

    Imagine a society where children and adults could love each other, where sex wasnt taboo and everyone could engage in pleasurable experiences with any partner who wanted to… [sarcasm]What a horrible place!!11[/sarcasm]

    • Well, if you were referring to adolescents, who have reached puberty and thus have bodies simular to those of adults, you might have a point. Indeed, I have written about such things:

      https://dalehusband.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/statutory-rape-a-legal-absurdity/

      But that is absolutely NOT the case with children whose sexual organs have not even developed to make them as functional as those of adults. Only an idiotic pervert would ever confuse a girl with flat breasts and no public hair with one that has swollen breasts, considerable public hair, and even regular monthly periods.

      I approved your comment only to show the absurd lengths some child abusers will go to justify their depravity. But don’t ever comment on this blog again, because soon you will be banned.

      • Holy shit man, banned? And what did he do, disagree with you? This is what I hate about the child porn subject. People get so heated over it and fail to use any logic at all and resort to threats?

        I’m not a pedophile, but I’m of the opinion that the widespread attack on pedophilia/child porn/etc is greatly overdone and that on average pedophiles are abused more than the “children” that most people think they’re “raping”. I’m an advocate of any sexual relationships that are consensual, and I absolutely HATE the pervasive myth that no matter what, no one who society considers a “child” can possibly consent, and that all children are dumb and can’t think for themselves. Plus, when people say that it is the “responsibility of adults to nurture and protect them” (quoting another comment here), they are forgetting that most adults can and do do that, regardless of their sexual orientation. People assume that all pedophiles (or hebephiles, or really anyone who loves someone under 18) are evil and malicious. Or even worse, that anyone who defends any pedophile (or anyone who is attracted to a minor) is a pedophile themselves and thus evil by extension.

        Please don’t try to use Ad hominem here, it’s overused on the child porn/pedophilia subject and gets boring honestly (inb4 I’m a pedophile/rapist/pervert for not buying into the “pedophilia” witch-hunt). I’m confused as to why you were angry about the above comment? Breaking it down, I don’t see the issue.

        >Pedophilia is not a dysfunction, is a sexual orientation, and is certainly not destructive.
        I see nothing wrong with this comment, and I agree (for the most part at least). And destructiveness is with the person, not with the orientation.

        >… So? Does that mean that children are incapable of loving, or of feeling pleasure?
        In the Shakespearean Romeo and Juliet, Juliet is portrayed as 13. And this kind of thing happens IRL. Nothing wrong with this comment either.

        >We are born with sexual organs, so children are as capable as adults of feeling sexual pleasure. If sex is about pleasure, whats the problem?
        I mostly agree with him, but even the part I disagree with (“as capable”), it’s not a bad or bannable offense.

        >You obviously dont know many children, right? Children do have sexual impulses and desires.
        Can be taken the wrong way, but it’s a fine comment.

        >And you are entitled to, but dont generalize the desires you had to the desires all children have. Some children fall in love with older persons.
        This is scientifically true. Not particularly common but still true.

        >Well, disregarding the fact that you didnt prove anything, I would say that sex between adults and children IS natural (how couldnt it be?) and non-disruptive, if it is done for pleasure and mutual consent.
        I don’t agree that it’s always natural, but it’s true that it’s non-disruptive if in mutual consent.

        >Imagine a society where children and adults could love each other, where sex wasnt taboo and everyone could engage in pleasurable experiences with any partner who wanted to… [sarcasm]What a horrible place!!11[/sarcasm]
        Aside from sarcasm, absolutely nothing is negative about this comment.

        So what are you angry about in the above comment? As for your response:
        >I approved your comment only to show the absurd lengths some child abusers will go to justify their depravity
        How the f*ck is that “absurd lengths”? Disagreeing with you is “absurd lengths”? And who ever said he was a child abuser, aside from your implication? I seriously doubt he’s advocating sex with children NAMBLA-style. I’m sorry, but this makes me angry that you are using Ad hominem to the extent where you insult a person by calling them a child abuser. And please don’t censor my comment because I disagree with you.

        Are you going to threaten to ban me too for disagreeing, or can we have a polite, logical reply?

        (Dale Husband: I think Tinascratch stated the matter well enough. I would also add that the simple fact that the sexual organs of children prior to puberty are not developed enough to function properly with those of an adult means that any sexual behavior between them is unnatural. I would expect children to have sex with other children and adults to do so with other adults. But the fact that pre-pubescent children lack a sex drive, but must be “groomed” by pedophiles to become their partners, makes your whole argument pointless. You might as well argue that the Earth may be flat.

        Why the hell can’t you just wait until at least the child has hit PUBERTY?!)

    • Children are indeed sexual creatures – all humans are.

      However, children are often not capable of distinguishing between what is good for them and what is detrimental to them. It is the responsibility of adults to nurture and protect them.

      Sexuality is a complicated business in our society as in many others, but there is no doubt that a sexual relationship between an adult and a child is damaging to the child and an act of exploitation by the adult whether there is mutual consent or not. While it is possible to argue that this is because of societal taboos, I disagree with that argument. The exploitative nature of the relationship is undeniable – this is clearly a situation in which one person has the power and the knowledge. There can be no equality there.

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